I too have had a look at the other place, jeez storm in a tea cup. Like you say Clive you can't please everyone. I think all us here can see what your company are trying to do for thr broads and of course your in business to make money and have many hundreds of employees to think about. I think we all see the enthusiasm Paul and you have for what you do Clive, so crack on your doing a great job. From what IV seen Clive you guys are the first to put your hands when something is wrong..