grendel

right - I think we have argued this one to death now, and things are starting to stray into the realms of the personal, so before we get any further into infringements of the TOS than we have already, i think its time we gave the thread a rest. if anyone has anything new to add to this then PM me and i will consider reopening the discussion. I have now unlocked the topic for further discussion, if we could all remember to be civil towards each other and discuss the matter in a reasonable way without getting personal about it, the moderation team feel we can continue the debate, just remember a close eye will be kept on the thread to ensure that it remains civil and within the terms of service.

still on about those speed restrictions you introduced to the discussion, to me the speed restrictions are just a red herring. diverting from the main discussion.

i dont see quoting NP and sandford is necessarily anti NP, just anti Sandford for the broads.

Ah well think what you will, i know what i meant when i posted it

ok my only regret is the hole seems slightly off centre, not sure how as it was drilled while on the lathe with it running, but that will be hidden with a bolt and washer that will represent the centre boss.

it would be a nice place to sit on the balcony and watch the bridge transits.

thats the faceplate, its made from ABS and pretty chunky, so brass ring attached and polished up and it looks quite pretty if i say so myself, for a first attempt i am jolly pleased with it. its no contest as to which one goes on the model

Brass circle cut out of 0.15mm brass, scissors for the outer circle, scalpel to cut the inner circle.

next comes the brass ring

so the holes are drilled for the spokes, then spokes (cocktail sticks) added, after these are glued in place, the wheel is cut off from the block and cleaned up

well the teak turns nicely, so nearly there now, just about to drill for spokes

actually i am split on that one, when it first appeared in the arthur ransome facebook group, i pointed out that their major objection (all 10 of the boats moored around peel island) would never happen as they would mostly want to moor somewhere where there were electric points and other facilities. (pub), but my main point was the hypocrisy of the announcement with visit the lake district in big letters across the bottom, on an announcement saying they had rejected the application for on the water accommodation on the same lakes, surely a very mixed message for someone supposedly encouraging visitors to their NP, now do we see that as a familiar picture.

it would appear that despite all inferences to the contrary, it was you that introduced the distraction of speed on coniston into the topic, all i contributed was the decision against 10 gentlemens yachts on grasmere . yet now you accuse your opponents of bringing this example to the table as our only go to example. oh tut.

except gentlemans yachts on grasmere apparently.

ok so now i have returned from my training in leeds and had a good sleep, its time to progress, one of my wood blocks has been added to a faceplate and is set up ready to start shaping the ships wheel, hey, if this doesnt work, i have realised i could turn it out of a piece of brass if the wood works out to be too tricky

go on, i'll bite and say it if there is no speedboat event, then its not a false comparison - ergo sum cogitus

ah now there is the issue, some drivers consider the round abouts are flyovers (its usually at this point they find they cant fly, though remembering the video of the van, it had a jolly good try.)

it was just the thought that if I was booking a holiday in an area entitled the lake district, only to be told I couldnt book a boating holiday, i would be kind of disappointed. its just the mixed message presented by a NP, though I suppose that we should be used to that already.

with what

I have had a similar incident - two lanes leading off the roundabout , I was turning right so was in the centre lane (outside lane of the exit, when someone in the outer roundabout lane decided they wanted the next exit round and just continued around the roundabout despite two lanes trying to exit at that junction, its easily done if you are not familiar, and you just have to assume that all the other drivers are going to do the worst possible manouver at the worst possible time. its just a case of keeping your awareness on the other traffic and what it is doing.

Actually I was just pointing to it as an example of how other NP's use their powers to prevent things they see as unwanted, plus the irony of a message that says in huge letters at the bottom visit the lake district, on a publication that gives the message 'visit the lake district, but dont expect to be able to stay on a boat while you are here' and the conflict between messages that gives, maybe i should have started a new thread for that, but hey i was tired after a days training then a 6 hour drive home.

a post to consider - the response in another National park to the prospect of 10 recreational cruisers on the lake. https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/allan-bank-and-grasmere/features/our-response-recreational-boats-grasmere-?fbclid=IwAR1GSZq__Ie13vECVDLKudPD97YmDJ9HnBw3HuNuKabEw0cL2Utpsm1JkFE to those that say it could never happen - take note.

Or indeed a post saying I will be at xyz, pm me for details would probably be acceptable too, as long as whoever was organising it didn't then say to the location it's an NBN meet (or we could prove that it hadn't been openly organised on the forum or Facebook pages, is just an idea put forward by an individual and privately organised) we would I think find that acceptable

No, lads week is organised via an email chain, it doesn't use the name of the NBN for any purpose during its duration, therefore it's not an NBN event, formal or informal. Over 50 percent of the participants are not even forum members.

That was one of the trigger events that highlighted the need to tighten up the paperwork side of things, I believe. Plus most if not all of the actual attendance was organised by the forum private message system, we did have a few casuAl visitors on the day, who had a scraper or paintbrush thrust into their hands. Each day a group meeting was held before work started, where the issues and risks were gone through, what could be termed a site / task specific risk assessment, is don't work here as someone is working above, etc. The issue would be if anything went wrong and the NBN had been mentioned in association with the event, or by inference because it had been organised on the forum with a sign up thread, organising using th private message system on the forum would be a way around that, as PM's are private and not publicly available.