A Broad accent

[RonDancor]

Here's my first post.

I was on Albion yesterday, going from Cantley towards Norwich. When we passed Buckenham Sailing Club, the pub next door, the Beauchamp Arms, was pointed out to us. It seems that the correct pronunciation of “Beauchamp” is actually “Buckenham”.

I also recall that “Berney Arms” should be pronounced “Barney Arms”.

Anyone have further information on these, or other Broads pronunciations?

Kevin.

[Swordfish]

Hello, and welcome.

 

We passed the Wherry yesterday, you are probably one of these pictures.

[ExMemberBobdog]

Welcome to the wonderful Norfolk dialect.  Not sure about Broadland specifically, but in Norfolk generally place names can be confusing to the uninitiated.  Try these ...

 

Wymondham, pronounced Windham,

Costessey - Cossey,

Stiffkey - Stookey,

Happisburgh - Haisbra,

Cley - Cly (as in cry).

 

An 'o' generally has an 'oo' sound, so Cromer is pronounced Croomer.

 

While you're out and about on the Broads, look out for any harnsers and listen for the sound of buttles.

[Hockham Admiral]

Welcome aboard from us, Kevin.

In the part of Norfolk where Mary-Jane comes from it's pronounced " Beecham"...

[Hockham Admiral]

Oh, and Norwich dialect gives beer as "bear".

[jillR]

hi kevin

 

welcome to the forum from me to.

 

jill

[trambo]

Hi Kevin, Welcome to the club. First of all, dead jealous you sailed the Albion on the Yare. Must have been a great experience? Secondly I gave up trying to work out the correct pronunciation of Norfolk villages yonks ago. I've now ended up with so many names which I just pronounce the way I think they should be that when I repeat them in public on the Broads a look of where's he talking about is returned, followed by a realisation on my part that I've got it wrong again which is further followed by a suitable reddening of the cheeks! Mind you there are plenty up here in Cheshire, my favourites being Lower and Upper Peover which you will be glad to know (especially if you live there) is pronounced "Pever".

 

Fred

[ranworthbreeze]

Hello Kevin,

Welcome to the forum.

Please tell us about your trip on Albion and how this was arranged.

We all know about the Wherry Trust but personally I have never visited their yard (note to self must call in).

As for the Norfolk dialect I am with Fred, it is great to listen to like most regional twang, but coming from up North can only understand part of it and whoever I speak to gets just as confused. Tan says I just mumble!

Regards

Alan

[ExMemberBobdog]

Some help for non-natives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSnKztWTAUk

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzXBsxEMNQ

[ExMemberBobdog]

The Dumpling Song

A Dumpling is a person from Norfolk - not a small dump.  This song, assumed to derive from the pen of George Kipper, comes from the pre-multi-cultural, melting-pot era.

 

"It couldn't deride from the pen of George Kipper, because George always uses a pencil.  He reckons that way you can always rub it out and deny all knowledge."

Sid Kipper.

 

The Dumpling Song appears on Sid's album Chained Melody

 

Come all of you stout Norfolk folk, and all the thin ones also,

For we must fight a foe as big as ever - if not more so.

For there's a threat we all must face, from Massingham to Mundham;

They are a most pernicious race, those dreadful folk from London.

But Dumplings all, no matter what,

Will always be the ones on top.

 

It is well known to Norfolk folk that Londoners have rabies;

They talk a foreign language and they eat each others' babies.

They think all birds are 'sparras', and the privy is a toilet;

They reckon Norfolk's all unspoilt, so then they come and spoil it.

 

Now we keep hearing, on the news, that London is so favoured;

If they believe that well, I mean, why don't they all just stay there?

They come and live in all our barns, creating homeless hens,

Then insult all our women folk by not seducing them.

 

It's not 'cos they complain like hell when we go spreading muck;

It's just that they don't have the sense to simply learn to duck.

It's not 'cos they are pale of skin, while we are ruddy faced -

It's just that now they've bought it all they think they own the place.

 

Now we won't burn their houses down, that's not the way for us;

We won't attack them in the streets - we can't abide a fuss.

But there's a way we've used before to get what we are needing;

Let's turn them into Norfolk folk by lots of interbreeding!

But Dumplings all, no matter what,

Will always be the ones on top.

 

 

Copyright Chris Sugden, 1994/2000

[VetChugger]

Try these .....

 

Pawrtrum

 

Pozik (easy)

 

Brunnell

 

And, of course, Narich or Gnawrich !

 

A very senior local once told me of "Blah" and "Berksull" but I think he was maybe taking the proverbial!

 

Trevor

[mbird]

I've always known the Beauchamp Arms as "Beecham", as that's quite a common name across the country, but I suppose it could have been Norfolkised!

 

I like the local terminology for things; Bishy Barny Bee (Ladybird); Dodman (Snail) etc etc. There are loads of them!

[RonDancor]

Thank you for your replies and pictures.

The consensus so far would indicate that it is the “Beecham” Arms. I would still be interested to hear about the “Barney” Arms.

 

The Norfolk Wherry Trust website, http://www.wherryalbion.com/, is the place to go to find out about chartering Albion.

Kevin.

[Hockham Admiral]

Ron, Hi.

 

I was just browsing and came across this lovely site... now you'll never need a translator with you!

 

http://www.norfolkdialect.com/glossary01.htm

[trambo]

Should be in every skippers handbook!