JennyMorgan

Really?

Lovely evening today! Jenny Morgan is iced in but it was a good day to be by the water, clearing up the winter debris and watching many hundreds of feral geese on or above the Broad. Judging by the cackling those geese must have been . . . . . . . . . . . . . thought!! Some of those clouds are actually flocks of birds.

Must be fair here, the Navigation Committee did have an input in the make-up of the questions. It was conducted by an outside agency. Who, though, produced the result?

Are you really?

Human powered sailboards? That won't help the ozone layer!

Build one then! Idea for the Boat Show next year?

Only just found this one! Poppy, you are amazed at the p.p. response, especially the on-line ones. Be honest though, in the past BA surveys have proved to be next to valueless or so clearly skewed and cherry picked to provide a desired end result. Perhaps folk now see responding as a waste of time? I personally don't see the results as entirely surprising, the BA has entirely devalued surveys, witness the recent, wholly laughable National Park survey, a blatant tool for a determined CEO!

Lots of bling and shine! http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?pbid=a1e9c834-977f-48b4-a6c7-131ed3191f91

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/photo_gallery_meet_the_norwich_city_mascot_who_pedalled_the_broads_1_3921389 I don't recollect ever seeing the Nutty Slack but I do remember seeing a similar craft at Beccles during the 1950's and 60's, always fascinated me. A project idea for anyone? Not sure how it would be tolled?

Reasonable points have been raised, any responsible purchaser will surely put their minds at rest regarding what is on offer and what might need to be done. Certainly anyone potential purchase reading this thread will now be well equipped to ask relevant questions.

Mark, have a peep here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe=off&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=781&q=Sunk+boats+on+the+Norfolk+Broads&oq=Sunk+boats+on+the+Norfolk+Broads&gs_l=img.12...2864.16968.0.20782.32.10.0.22.22.0.249.1729.0j5j4.9.0.msedr...0...1ac.1.61.img..22.10.1713.TWVsKyzW0Ew#imgdii=_ Should bring you up to date, sad really

Mark, every winter boats sink, often making the headlines on one or more forums. From a local perspective I know of two currant sinkings on Oulton Broad but one, I suspect, is an abandonment. It does appear that some/many owners walk away from their boats during the winter, expecting them to be just as they left them come next spring. It does concern me because my insurance requires me to visit my boat at least once a week whilst she is afloat, not that that is a hardship!

Only time will tell.

And when Lord de Mauley moves on? Or when the next Broads Bill emerges? Or when the National Parks Act is modified?

Just a thought, Horsey Mere was closed to navigation by the BA. Granted that the BA stepped back but not before they threatened huge fines on people disturbing wildlife whilst exercising their right to navigate. Thankfully all sorted by sensible people reaching a mutual compromise but that doesn't alter the fact that it happened.

At Oulton Broad yesterday: I'm guessing here but judging by the grp/paint marks on the jetty at the front of the boat the stem caught on the top of the jetty. We had a very low tide last week so perhaps the bow stayed up whilst the stern went down, allowing the incoming tide to pour in over the back of the boat. If that was the case then she was not tied up as well as she could have been. Whatever, great shame, presumably someone's pride and joy.

All quite true, but that is not the issue. The issue is simply that the Authority, as I have shown in the 1994 Broads Plan, has an agenda. In the Broads Bill there was a clear, stated, open ended desire to be able to exclude boats from chosen parts of the navigation area. Thankfully that was thrown out but that does not alter the fact that the wish was there. I really can't be asked to trawl through pages and pages of Broads Bill correspondence but the reality is clearly there for those pedants who need it. Yes, I agree, it was thrown out, as was the proposal to call The Broads a National Park. Now we are back discussing whether Dr Packman is right to resurrect his demand that the Broads be called a National Park despite the fact that it isn't one. He clearly doesn't give up!

Soundings, our tolls pay for nearly 50% of BA overheads. Rather unfair really.

Rather depends on the marina involved. How was the boat lifted out? If on strops care has to be taken but provided the canvas and rubbers are sound then there shouldn't have been a problem. Personally I would take the bull by the horns, speak to the manager and tell him of your worries. You could ask him if his staff had reported the damage? Having now seen the damage to the rubber it won't be a cheap job, ask your insurance company to act on your behalf.

All part of the propaganda!

Ice cream cones could make ideal funnels. In this day and age I fail to see how a food hygiene certificate can be obtained for a boat, or a van, without toilet and separate washing facilities.

This is from the Broads Plan 2004: Recreational pressures on existing water space are considerable and somewhat exacerbated by some broads being closed to the public, and certain upper reaches being inaccessible. The number and types of boating activities can have implications for safety, quiet enjoyment of the waterways and river-banks and for nature conservation interests, and must be carefully managed. Improvements in access must also be tempered with limited or no access to certain water space that provides a key refuge for wildlife. Zoning of the water space, both in time and space, is a recognised means of reducing conflicts between different user groups. Promotion of good boating practice may also help to reduce environmental impacts of boating. Opportunities for the creation of more water space can also be explored, although options are limited in a nationally protected area. As some of you may know I was one of several people who petitioned against the Broads Bill in the House of Lords. Zoning of water-space and excessive management was one of the issues that we objected to. Proposals within the draft Bill were watered down and then further watered down in the Bill presented to Parliament. It's all on public record, if you refer to Hansard.

Sorry, Strow, not prepared to post names on a public forum.

Mark, a bucket is always handy, ideal for washing the scoop in too!

Strow, there is enough history to substantiate this one. A BA lady, now thankfully moved on, was very open on her views. Not sure that it would happen now but I can assure you that there were those who would have had it happen if they could.