Berney Arms

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1 minute ago, JennyMorgan said:

It would be interesting to know for sure that Mr Horrocks, rather than the EA, actually owns the shoreline at that point. There is an instance in St Olaves where the land has been built up on the river bed thus the land in question belongs to the Crown. 

My understanding and I don't know for sure either way is that the land is owned by Mr Hollocks, but protected as is the case in lots of other places by the EA. 

[JennyMorgan]

If I believe Wikipedia then I now understand that the pub was built beside the 'staithe' that served the local community. I once owned Burgh Staithe and as my solicitor put it, I could neither charge for mooring at that point nor could I refuse people the right to moor. Perhaps removing the mooring posts could be regarded as hindering folk's rights to moor against the staithe. Possibly a point worth taking up with the Authority. I think that I shall!

[JennyMorgan]

Delving a bit deeper it appears that Berney Staithe served the parish and community of Berney thus I think it fair to suggest that the staithe is quite probably public rather than private. One for the BA's legal beagle me thinks. 

[NorfolkNog]

Wasn't the land all owned by Thomas Berney JM? I suppose any staithe would probably pre date the railway?? be interesting to find out. 

[Smoggy]

34 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

Possibly a point worth taking up with the Authority. I think that I shall!

Go for it JM!

[JennyMorgan]

3 minutes ago, NorfolkNog said:

Wasn't the land all owned by Thomas Berney JM?

Quite probably, I have a history of Berney tucked away somewhere, I shall have to have a search. I think that the classic 'no easy answer' applies here!

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22 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said:

Quite probably, I have a history of Berney tucked away somewhere, I shall have to have a search. I think that the classic 'no easy answer' applies here!

I have just dug out my copy of Berney Arms Remembered by Sheila Hutchinson. If the answer is not in there, it could well be in the book before that one, which I don't have a copy off, The Berney Arms past and present also by Sheila. Just noticed that my copy is also signed by Sheila.

 

[JennyMorgan]

I have asked Broadland Tom (BA) for the Authority's opinion and advice on this one. Will keep you all posted,

[JennyMorgan]

Tom has acknowledged my query, (thanks, Tom). There are probable legalities involved so we must't expect an instantaneous and definitive answer just yet but it has gone to the very top for consideration.

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Tilbury Douglas were employed by the EA in 1998 to repile and protect the whole bank from The Berney Arms to Ashtree Farm some 575 metres at a cost of about 2 million pound. However I cannot find mention of the staithe. 

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The pub owned moorings at The Berney Arms are now closed. Looks like hazard tape has been strung between the posts as well as no mooring signs have been erected.

[JennyMorgan]

1 hour ago, EastCoastIPA said:

The pub owned moorings at The Berney Arms are now closed.

The legality of this action is being investigated by the Broads Authority.

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News on the grapevine is that The Berney Arms, or more precisely the bistro now has a drinks license. Looks like the pub moorings will be reopened with a charge for mooring refundable in the bistro which is in line with a lot of pub moorings. I understand that it is possible that the moorings may be reopened prior to the bistro opening.

[ChrisB]