Andrewcook Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I've Seen OldGregg post Brinks Tempo about Engines such as from Barnes Brinks Engines using Yanmar are4JH series with electronic Injection for Fuel-Efficient then the Nanni / Beta / Perkin's engine's also typical Brinks fashion have Twin Alternators to top up the Battery's for good measure. Griff why did you pick the Beta Engine if I'm right? What do the Forum members think of this question I put before you all? In my view I would seek advice about what Engine to put in a Boat for its wear and tear and affiance for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairTmiddlin Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Having been involve with Selling, Maintaining and generally looking after Kubota machinery since it started in 1979 I think I can vouch for some of the reliability of their engines as I know one of my customers still has and runs an L225 tractor which was one of the first I sold in Kent. and it is still on her original engine The engine is the 24hp which I believe was the first Nanni marination of a Kubota engine. Thing is they got it right first time and hardly any improvements were made the engines for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi Andrew i chose a Kubota as it's cam shaft and auxiliary's use gears rather than chain or belt which means no planed replacements or maintenance along with life time wear, I chose beta rather than Peach mounts (they both use the same engine) but beta had a more/better fit of auxiliary's in my opinion i chose hydrolic drive for its low maintenance and versatility all though you do loose 5 or 10 % power but no engine alignment needed and better engine mounts means no vibration issues and better bow thruster use along with fly by wire controls. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Firstly 2006 - We chose Beta because of recommends from others Secondly Jason Hatch giving his best sales pitch (Formerly of SOS247 prior to him saving Ludham Bridge Boatyard) Thirdly and most importantly - There was no way on Gods green earth I was going to install owt french onboard a 1960's classic Norfolk cabin cruiser - So there! Fourthly - in my opinion Beta spares are easily obtainable, easily identified and don't cost the earth either. I do all the servicing, both standard and Major, it's a breeze to work on I prefer the colour Beta red to nanni blue. I like cruising onboard 'B.A' with a Beta under the deck boards, it gives one a warm fuzzy feeling. It's smooth, quiet, doesn't smell or leak owt. Has never let us down, fills us with confidence, two 16 x Hrs trips to the Thames and back , never missed a beat despite getting tossed all over the place on the return leg Jason informed me that our 50hp Beta should be good for 30'000 hours, thirty thousand - Wow, we have barely done 3'500 since 2007 Hope this helps, Griff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewcook Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 I now would think the Beta Engine Fitted into Broad Ambition is a good sale pointer for what it has been doing so far. As to theses Yards Build Boats for Hire and Sale uses Different Engines are they good as Beta Engines? Are they being serviced regularly? As to the engine wear and tear. Griff does regularly service Broad Ambition Engine to a very high standard I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Engine choice will always be down to planned usage at build stage, a nice economical common rail is good for pottering round the broads but more to cause problems, for sea you can't beat an old school mechanical injected diesel as you can lose all electrical power and they will keep on running, if I was to lose power I would have to lift the floorboards and pull levers to get mine to stop otherwise they would just keep going, as long as they have good oil clean fuel and air, and you can't fix a black box on the go with a set of spanners and a lump hammer. I know of a broom 450 that went into limp mode crossing the channel on the way back from clogsville due to a fuel pressure issue, it was never enough to cause an engine issue but the computer said no, I would have thought getting the crew home safe was far more important than getting the engines home safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, Smoggy said: Engine choice will always be down to planned usage at build stage, a nice economical common rail is good for pottering round the broads but more to cause problems, for sea you can't beat an old school mechanical injected diesel as you can lose all electrical power and they will keep on running, if I was to lose power I would have to lift the floorboards and pull levers to get mine to stop otherwise they would just keep going, as long as they have good oil clean fuel and air, and you can't fix a black box on the go with a set of spanners and a lump hammer. I know of a broom 450 that went into limp mode crossing the channel on the way back from clogsville due to a fuel pressure issue, it was never enough to cause an engine issue but the computer said no, I would have thought getting the crew home safe was far more important than getting the engines home safe. I've no idea of the circumstances but if the low fuel pressure was due to down to partially blocked filters this could cause the engines to go into limp home. Without this feature the engines could have continued at full chat, blocked the filters faster and then stalled completely. At least with limp home you have some control which is better than none, it also buys you time to try and resolve the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I'd prefer a warning light and the option to carry on, the engine don't know the sea and weather conditions or how close to a safe harbour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hi All sea going boats should have duel parallel fuel filters. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Mine certainly doesn't, not easy to get underway either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 hours ago, annv said: Hi All sea going boats should have duel parallel fuel filters. John What stops them both blocking at the same time, assuming that the fuel is going through them at the same rate at the same time? or are they on some sort of switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Proper dual filter setups have a changeover valve MM, bloody pricey too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 They are often 3 times the price of single filter versions, but if you're at sea with a blocked filter I would say they are worth it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 How much is your life worth? failed engine close to shore with on shore wind!!. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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