ChrisB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think that comment is a bit harsh, furthermore at least one of the owners I would class as being, well, let us say "comfortable" and not sudo riche at all. That boat has always pushed the limits and why not? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It's a shame that the river cruiser class has been bastardised by the sudo-rich to pretend they are in the offshore racing elite. my comments above refers to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I've come to the conclusion that between us we could solve all the problems on the broads in one fell swoop, what brilliant ideas forum... A 24 hour radio station... Them were the days, Ross revenge, mi amigo, Veronica, radio London, the fort based stations.. It's what the broads needs..... Now where are my pioneer SL1210's and spot master jingle machines RayI remember listening to Radio London closing down. The girl I was with has been my wife for forty five years, so it must have been 67ish. I have nearly that many years on the clock now! Edited August 29, 2015 by ChrisB Just thought how long ago it all was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostlyAfloat Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I remember listening to Radio London closing down. The girl I was with has been my wife for forty five years, so it must have been 67ish. I have nearly that many years on the clock now!Yep same here, have a great fondness for them days, I even have all the major pirates siggy tunes on my iTouch.... How ironic ! Their are some great YouTube Vids on the era and let's face it it was a lot more fun than how radio 1 has evolved into ....RaySent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I always have a laugh when Bill Nighy and The Boat That Rocked is shown. As it was last night.Reviews are alway terrible! Written by those not even born when it was going on! Edited August 29, 2015 by ChrisB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostlyAfloat Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I always have a laugh when Bill Nighy and The Boat That Rocked is shown. As it was last night.Reviews are alway terrible! Written by those not even born when it was going on!Indeed, what was that film about, bore no resemblance to what I used to listen to, tho they did go for authenticity as far as the studio equipment was concerned, most of it was borrowed from various collectors and or as I believe Radio Caroline's "Museum" if that's the right term and much of it was totally refurbished for the film as it wasn't in such good condition, the film was watchable mainly for the back story for me, and that was the era and seeing all that equipment I used play with (I had some spotmaster jingle machines and carts)I understand the TX for the real ship came from an American Bible belt AM radio station that used to pump out religious content and went bust...Getting a bit dusty in here.... RaySent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Whilst I appreciate that Raisina went to Lowestoft by sea in order to collect her mast I doubt very much that the owners are anything other than Broads sailors and yes, probably members of the cruiser fleet elite. Raisina is peculiarly a Broads boat & the owners are to be congratulated for pumping very serious money into the class. Whether a vintage boat should remain as she was built rather than be allowed to develop as modern materials become available is altogether another issue & I suspect most regulars will guess which side of the fence I would sit on but that is not the issue. I suspect that Labrador knows full well the identity of the forum member that is involved with Raisina & I suggest that his comment is both uncalled for disrespectful to a fellow forum member. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I have thick skin so don't mind uninformed negative comments, there are 6 of us who own her and we have a great time on her, she has always (since the 1980s been upgraded altered and improved and due to the insurance on the (non original aluminium) mast which broke we found ourselves a new wind range with the bigger mast and sails. She was not designed to race but not many of the older ones were. we did not take her to Barton and will do the Yare Navigation race next. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 oh yes, it is a little absurd but thats us!I don't think she has ever sunk, are you thinking of Storm? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Clive, you didn't deserve those uninformed & negative comments that, regretfully, departed from the original intent of this thread. By the way, you didn't leave the red masthead light on & there are regular helicopter flights landing at the nearby Ivy Farm Hotel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I appologise Clive, it must be my age! I thought it was Raisena that capsized in Wroxham Broad a few years ago.I remember one of the crew or owners was an ex diver and quickly got a couple of strops under the vessel in question and one of the wherries winch was used to help raise her.As I say memory not what it was, sorry about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Ignore them Clive they are clearly just jealous that yours is the biggest.I've never seen this boat though and it is fascinating. What's her story? I understand sailing on the broads is hard because of the tree line so the broads boats do normally have a larger masts to get above the tree line. But surely then having a large sail area like that when you get in a clearing she would surely be blown down. (I do see you last reefing point there is quite a reduction so i guess you use that quite a bit). What is she like to sail though is she stable enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just by the way it was Madie that went down at Wroxham, a few years ago now. Mike Barnes who owns her was a diver and he also was involved with White Moth at the time. I am not sure if it was White Moth that was used to bring her up, but certainly one of the wherrys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 the photo of the mast in the cloud is not real, is it? it may be worth getting a red flashing light for a laugh! I just hope that no one finds out that the carbon mast going on Ladybird is cheaper than a wooden one and smaller than a previous one!Here is some history on Raisena..http://www.greenwyvern.org.uk/rcc/rccmain.php?sailno=3call it progress or evolution, . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 I suspect that to replicate Ladybird's original wood mast, which I suspect was hollow, would cost a small fortune! Personally I'd call it evolution but I do regret that good cruising boats are becoming 'racing machines' and uncruisable, if there is such a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 the photo of the mast in the cloud is not real, is it? . Of course it is . . . . . . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Raisena was built as a cruising boat, much the same as most of the fleet hence the name 'River cruiser class' Ladybird was built specifically to race but had to adhere to the class rules, in the same way as my lady (evening flight) and more recently Storm, Starlight lady, Meggie, Lyra etc, The mast off Ladybird we broke was built by Lowestoft college for Evening flight but rejected, after a bit of work and a lot of wires put on, the previous owners of ladybird had a good few years of use out of it, the mast they originally had on was a very heavy one which was on Moonraker, Moon raker had upgraded to a aluminium mast, at one time Ladybird also had the rig off Crossbow which was torn down after getting caught on a marker post.. I am sure that if Mr Woods had still been about he would have done much the same if he had still owned these old fashioned wooden things! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The Broads answer to the Shard! So high that it has a red light on the top as a warning to low flying aircraft! Oulton Broad this evening had clouds at about eighty feet. It's a shame that the river cruiser class has been bastardised by the sudo-rich to pretend they are in the offshore racing elite. Personally I think she looks rather nice! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Clive, you didn't deserve those uninformed & negative comments that, regretfully, departed from the original intent of this thread. By the way, you didn't leave the red masthead light on & there are regular helicopter flights landing at the nearby Ivy Farm Hotel Two points, Peter:I totally agree with your first nine words in your first sentence but we are both frequently guilty of the last ten! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Well congratulations to Clive on his new rig. I hope the pic does not offend but I think shows that there is always a place for pushing the boundaries. Not for the feint hearted! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Would a Spitfire still be a Spitfire if it were not powered by an original Rolls Royce engine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Warp, are you suggesting the original paint was never that shiney? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Would a Spitfire still be a Spitfire if it were not powered by an original Rolls Royce engine? I think that all those powered by an American Packard Merlin might, Peter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Okay, John, fair point! An original Merlin then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) A large proportion of RR Merlins and a few Griffons were I believe machined and assembled by Ford Motor Co at their Trafford Park factory in Manchester. They also turned out a fair number of Willys Jeeps at the same plant. In fact I am not sure as to the fact that Ford might have made more than RR. Edited August 30, 2015 by ChrisB it is a Griffon engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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