marshman

Trouble is he backs onto a National Nature Reserve - always going to be sticky that one!!!

I would not call Clive a "small yard"!!!! He may not have a large hire fleet but he has a big yard and moorings for about 40 private boats, mostly large. I don't know what he plans are with his hire fleet but I expect he has plans for 10/15 or so. He has a big workshop with room for fabrication, and I guess room for some expansion. Whilst it does not make him "large" in comparison with the four main yards, I would say its a fair size and well within the "middle" range. And he is growing a good name whilst others have got too large and are losing the personal touch!

Yes I think you are being a little unfair (not on the tank size!) simply because there are many variables. A 150l tank is fairly common on hire boats I have an old Perkins MC42 and over a year use approx 1 1/2 litres per hour or a little more but I have seen reports of people using astonishing amounts by my standard!! But then I always plan my voyages to spend at least 50% of the time travelling with the tide - yes even up and down the Ant and rarely exceed 1500rpm. That keeps me by my calculation around about the speed limit but does anyone do that? Punching a full flood tide south of Acle would probably double consumption, yet most people do it without thought. I don't go south anymore because I have been there, done it and read the book but especially down south punching the tide for any length of time would add to my consumption. We are coming up to neap tides this weekend, so that will help as will lack of rainfall will also reduce flow in some upper reaches. There really is no average given the variables - or thats my view! Today I cruised for 5 hours but I doubt I used much more than 8 litres but others would have got there quicker and used double - its a bit like a car! Depends how you drive them!!!!! How much thought you give to it, where you are cruising and whether you take note of tides and wait until the tide has turned, if thats the way you are going!!

Just thought you guys might like an update on the Wroxham roadworks which were clearly finished yesterday I guess, but the little man is still sitting in his van watching the lights changing, and not a workman in sight!! On the NCC site it says the roadworks are until tomorrow so I suppose we have to endure another day of this crass stupidity, driving slowly through the lights, looking at a filled in hole, which wasn't really big enough to warrant lights in the first place!! Why cannot the man just ring his boss and say the lights are no longer required and that they are just causing a hold up for the sake of it? Perhaps he was busy reading the Sun but he must have finished that by 9 - 9.30??? How much fuel and time was wasted today alone? Unbelievable!!

I believe that they are especially lax in Norfolk - to be honest it would not matter if it were on a by road but it is on a major traffic artery with few alternatives.

Wroxham again- far from getting better they continue over the weekend. Not that anyone will be working then. Supposedly up until the 4th - until they start again!!!! I do wonder whether the companies concerned are actually capable of sorting the problems out!!!

Fahrenheit or Centigrade - or don't GB News know the difference?

Looking at potential infrastructure in advance is always fraught with problems - living in Kent as I did many years ago I remember the outcry about the Channel Tunnel. I wonder how we would be 30 yrs on if that had not been built? The M1 and the East Cost Mainline? Everywhere else in the world has high speed main lines, most faster than ours ever will be but then who am I to say? The trouble is you need vision to see ahead like that - Crossrail, now the Elizabeth Line first discussed many years before it got started in 2009. Who even now after a few weeks, says it is a waste of money - its already proving its worth. Verging on the political I guess, so I had better go away!!! Who am I to say whats good infrastructure, other than generally, we leave it too late in this country!!

Take out the top 5% of wage earners, and that includes a lot of public sector too, and the "average" is know where near £39k. Indeed the ONS on their website show the average quoted pay in Grendels post above to be way off the mark - their website shows total pay per week in June as £604 and regular pay as £562 - the latter shows the average as being under £30K. Perhaps that puts a different complexion on the rail sector? And who is paying for the rail sector - my figure is probably a bit off the mark but I think we paid £12bn to keep that sector afloat during the pandemic. I know lots of less fortunate individuals who were laid off then and even those on furlough were not safe often being made redundant at the end of furlough. And don't even get me started on GP's who are just being asked to pay tax like everyone else on their pension pots - goodness knows how they will spend their retirement earnings. Most seem to want to retire at 50(!!), yet some people I know do not get their state pension until 67 and still have to work to make ends meet!

The kids have been swimming from Caen Meadow, to my knowledge, for 65 years plus!! Nowt changes much, except we now worry about it. They used to swim out and hang onto your dinghy - that was when the extra long boathook we carried, came into its own!!! A few thwacks and they soon let go!!!

Treat her to a trip on one of the tour boats - always loads of room on the Wroxham ones and loads of choices of times etc. and I am sure she would enjoy it - parking should be ok too.

Perhaps ,as far as weed cutting is concerned, perhaps they should just pick up the phone and ask the BA??? The northern cutter is about to start on the Thurne again for the third time this year. The southern one is probably on the Waveney or at least thats my guess. That post ought to be moved to a new thread to leave this clear for this Breydon thread. Incidentally do they cut adjacent waterways or dykes - I suspect not?

Sorry Meantime that boat is going the wrong way and the picture on the other side shows it almost dark - the sun still appears to be up and it wasn't - it was virtually dark as the other picture shows.

And if you cross, when advised, at low water , its actually impossible to run aground where they did and the channel is very very obvious. Sunset is 21.17p.m. so good old fashioned lighting up time is 21.47 - a cloudy night would make it pretty dark most places on the Broads, except possibly Oulton!

Correct! I just forgot what they called it! In the past I believe they have used them from dismantled groynes but having looked online, I was amazed at the price - lets only encourage them to do the necessary ones!!! Dread to think how long they are and the price of a full size one!!! If you look on "the other side" you will see it was the BA who had a hand in putting out the markers and signs! Or so they say!!

Part of the issue is that I am not sure they are telegraph poles - I think they may be hard wood. Indeed they could even be OLD hardwood. Steel posts would probably help but lets not talk about moving them all - we do not need that adding to the nav bill! Perhaps they should be alternate so the posts are never that far apart!!

The majority, have managed to negotiate that bridge without real issue for years - they do not need the BA to spend more money on unnecessary electronic solutions - you have that available for free in your brain and your eyes as is evidenced by that majority!

So what makes you think that punters would take any notice of such signs? They don't stop lorries, people still travel around after dark when they are supposed to be tied up, and try and navigate Breydon after dark. Not that that makes much difference when you cannot spot a buoy even in broad daylight!!!

Perhaps the need for caution is why the boards are as they are - if it was closer more people may be encouraged to try - unsuccessfully!!!

Well thats ok then - good job Haven Bridge is still non operational!!!!!!

Lets not blame the punters shall we - after all they should not even have been on Breydon as it was around 10 pm. Surprised they saw the bridge!!!!

Not convinced about the rain other than a few spluttering's but its all change from about 3 a.m. onwards - thats if you are still up and fretting about getting to sleep!!!!

Griff - I hear what you say about the French vans but are Turkish any better?

I suppose next someone will suggest two long chains supported by buoys from Breydon Bridge to the other end - don't worry they would break that and still go aground! The trouble is you are never going to make allowances for some peoples stupidity and/or inability to read the instructions to do as they are asked or rather, think they know better.

My - thats clever!! Can see that catching on - or not!!