MauriceMynah

Too many "unknowns" here! What did the hirer tell the boatyard? We Don't know! Perhaps they told the boatyard that it was your fault, that the damage to your boat was there before they had the bump with you and that, in their opinion, you were going to "Try it on" to get a bit of damage to your boat sorted without paying. In a litigation mad society, they might have said lots of things to shift any blame from themselves.

The guy filming was doing the best thing for the trawler owner, useful for the insurance claim.

Please don't let this thread descend into an "Owners v Hirers" bitching contest. There are morons in both camps. It stands to reason that a novice is more likely to have a bump than an experienced boater, though we all make mistakes. It stands to reason that a novice is more likely to be on a hire craft. Not all novices have bumps and not all hirecraft skippers are novices. From the above one can reasonably deduce that statistically if your boat is hit, it will be by a novice in a hire craft. I don't want to sound harsh but LIVE WITH IT, or move your boat to the Thames where novices are taken out and hanged if they so much as look at a private boat.

I think I got my sim card in either 92 or 93. Not doing badly either way ! My first phone was a nokia 101 back then with a battery life of nearly 20 hours in standby

I apologise Paul, I really should have included in my post that the fact you are having to resort to legal action is indicative of totally unacceptable behaviour from whichever boatyard is concerned.

I don't think that this coment is going to be wildly popular, but here goes. The Norfolk broads, generally speaking, is a holiday area where most people learn how to handle a boat. It follows therefore that there will always be a great number of novices about. Novices get it wrong quite often. They hit boats, sometimes quite hard. That's the way it is! You don't want your boat to be hit? Well take it somewhere where the novices are few and far between. Try the Caladonian canal where novices lose a day of their holiday for training. If you keep a boat on the broads be aware it WILL be hit, sometimes quite hard. Now, as far as the people who "Hit and run" this is a sad sign of the times! They'd do the same if they were in a car! One final observation though. I was in the cabin of a boat that my father was taking upstream under Ludham Bridge. I'm not sure what happened, but dad clipped another boat. The chap onboard the boat first hurled abuse at my (83 year old) father, then demanded that we moored up to have a "chat". He stormed up as we were coming in to moor. That's when I came up onboard to step off with a rope. Suddenly he lost interest, and went back to his boat. By the time I'd tied up ours and walked towards his, he had untied and gone! He was more than happy to take on a Private Godfrey lookalike, less so anybody any younger.

Any info about coverage in Hickling??

I have several jobs I want to do, but whenever I get on my boat, I tend to just eat, drink, cruise and chill. Is there a cure for this?

Hylander, I had to say this to a member of NBF a while back, and I hope you take my point in the spirit it is given. You have views, and those views are important. Sometimes they will not be agreed with, and sometimes you will receive replies you will not like, but they are still your views and they are still important. If you stop posting, your views will not be heard, and so cannot possibly do any good. For all you know, this thread may lead to someone instructing their child to wear a lifejacket when playing on the roof. You will never know! You may have saved a life. you will never know! The price you pay for your views will always be the risk of ridicule, only the risk mind you, rarely will it be a price you actually pay. The possible rewards you can reap are inestimable. Sadly you may never find out if you have been paid. In my opinion, nothing has been said that has born the intention of any ridicule whatsoever (but that is just my view). Keep posting and don't disappear in a fit of peek. That does nobody any good.

Of course you are right Paladine, but telling somebody to stop worrying, is one of those automatic phrases, like seeing someone immediately after they've had an accident people say "Are you alright". I find my life has become so much easier to live now that I have accepted that I'm both arrogant and patronising. Being condescending comes naturally to me. Now, you do know what I mean by "Condescending" don't you.

Damned if you don't, damned if you do! Can't win! If I had been moored next to that boat I would have been far too angry about the parents, to be worrying about their kids. Of course I'd have reacted if one of the kids had fallen in, but by all that's holy, I'd be arrested for what I'd have then said to the parents afterwards.

I'm just racking my brain to work out who you could possibly mean there Strow

The water from your shower tray goes up a pipe and reaches the first of the "Diverter valves" What is this valve exactly? what options does it have? and have you seen one? I'm just wondering if you've done something I have done quite often. Work out what you need and then assume it exists. Also, the input to the black water tank should never be the output from that tank. You have the shower water going into the tank in the same pipe as the pumpout sucks it out. I'm reminded of first lyrics of "Let's face the music and dance" "THERE MAY BE TROUBLE AHEAD"

Sorry but are you saying that's what you've got, or what you want. If it's what you want, it won't work. If t's what you've got...I'm wrong! PS, how long have you owned this boat? I just wondered if it was Mr Mackenzies Kent class I nearly bought (but didn't as I'm too lazy to sail)

My GUESS is that there is a washer missing. Take it all apart again and when you put it all bvack together don't tighten the bolts that hold the two moving parts together.

In fairness Strowager, although I see what you are driving at, I think you've been perhaps a little harsh. Yes I agree that there is a significant number of boaters who see the holiday as a waterborn pub crawl, but I would match that number with those who go for having a boating (and lock free) holiday, frequently those would be families. Then, as you know there are the anglers, twitchers, ramblers and a host of other interests where the broads offer the holidaymaker the opportunity to endulge. So, when you say "Some see it is a giant commercial waterborn theme park for adults to cruise from Pub to Pub with a beatiful natural backdrop as a bonus. Others see it as a rare and beautiful waterland area which you are allowed to explore by boat and see nature in a unique way." I have to say that in my "never humble opinion" it is both, and many other things too. You go on to say... "For anyone that can't understand the difference between the two, then there's the problem...." For whom is there a problem, and what is it. Finally, might I take just a small issue with those who refer to a "Theme park" of which you are just one. What is your definition of "Theme Park"?

I suggested a canal from Hickling to Barton some months back on the NBF (I'm Maurice Mynah there) it received mixed responses. The removal of Potter Heigham bridge is a non starter for several reasons, the most important one being that the bridge restricts the flow on the incoming tide. Salt water would not be welcomed in Hickling, the damage would be devastating to fish, bird life and many other aspects. Not to mention the increased threat of flooding to all areas up stream of the bridge. Personally, although the idea was for me originally tongue-in-cheek, further thoughts on the matter sugested to me that it wasn't such a mad idea as I first thought, offering many benifits to many parties. It would provide a better flow of water through Hickling, yet still offer the facility of a lock to stop salt going up it. It would put Catfield on the holiday map and provide employment in the building phase. If one side of the canal had waterside properties built along it, the premium value of these properties would pay considerably towards the project. It won't happen, but it's a merry thought!

frequently it's the beam of the superstructure hat causes the problems. If you are not averse to the more traditional craft, prhaps you would do well to contact the Martham boatyard. their boats are narrower than most and I've seen them go under when I can't. Given that mine is a 27' Elysian Bounty, you will see my point. For me its the beam on the superstructure at the windscreen that matters.

Snuggtopz, Would that be a "no strings" contract?

Neatishead I think!

I've not opened the above link but I bet this is a spammer !

If you want to live and thrive, Let that spider run alive. But if you want to have a laugh, Swat it with the Telegraph.

It's nice to see a thread on conkers, it's usually the other way around! We have horse chestnut trees outside our house. No sign of them dropping yet!

Is it a "Top loader" Hylander? As you may know from the other forum, I'm looking for a top loading fridge, so when it's opened, all the cold air doesn't fall out. Also, you say yours was fairly pricey. May I be rude and ask just how pricey it was?

I'm sure we hired her for the first or second week in September, 1966, but I don't suppose there's any way of finding out ! She had a sliding wheelhouse back then, oh, and my mother lost a comb. You haven't found it have you?