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http://www.broadsnationalpike.com/2018/08/axlebridge-deb-acle-continues.html?m=1 The hilarity never stops. BTW, isn’t the site they bought 600m long? That’s from memory - so the suggestion that moorings will be lost is technically possible, ie that existing quay might be lost, but they can also be easily extended?

As probably the single most prolific spin-doctor for the anti-BA cause - I believe I have seen your opinions on Facebook, the EDP and this forum just today, and trust me I was not seeking hem out - I would quote, And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Badly-written, unfunny tittle-tattle of zero consequence. Tediously crops up everywhere I look.

Moorhen in Horning.

Addressed exactly how? The BA don't own the bridges, and don't pay for their maintenance. So their only course of a action is to ask/demand/force NR to fix them. In the real world NR can just do nothing and the BA can't do much either except bring pressure. If there were a clamour, with pieces in the EDP and reports on local TV that might exert some pressure on NR... Personally I don't see that clarifying the legal position is going to help, unless the BA would just say what they think it is.

Isn’t the fundamental issue here that there isn’t a single, powerful voice to represent the views of boaters? NYA are probably a lovely bunch, but cannot be a ‘leader’ because they have such a vested interest. The bridges is an issue where, contrary to the usual attitude here that “the BA should do something”, the BA might be grateful for pressure to be applied on NR by us if it was coordinated and had widespread support. Note, NR’s revenue is £6.5 billion It is quite possible they completely ignore bleating from the BA

So, the choice is, a Conservative councillor, or a Conservative councillor. Hoorah!

Vaughan, may I share your pictures with the Ludham Community Archive?

Womack

Ludham has bins still?

On a point of fact Jenny Morgan.

Fair do’s

Yes, that is precisely what I said above. You should calm down yourself and read back.

Wasn’t my point directly illustrating the attitude that NBN members think they “own” the river because they paid tolls?

Probably not, but as I’ve said above, perhaps in the future? And the limited company thing - doesn’t the current NBN situation illustrate exactly why you would that route? The liability issues mean a Ltd Co is a straightforward way to manage it. I really do not think they made any money at all.

Shall we agree that it is impossible to completely separate the two budgets? That there will always be blurring?

Just a heads up. The annual paddle boarding event is “money making” Shall I draft a letter to the EDP?

Blimey, is it the “reasonable” part or the “debate” ? Reasonable - I think many people here behave like they’ve paid their tolls so they own the river. Evidence? As you can see above, JM suggesting toll payers paid for the swim event, and me pointing out the BA have £3 million quid to pay for other stuff. Is that reasonable? Am I not pointing out that these facts are wrong? Is that not debate?

But it wasn’t “funded by the toll payer” was it? The BA has 3 primary aims. The promotion of understanding and enjoyment of the Broads is one. The BA gets £3 million pounds from the taxpayer for that. It’s NOT just Toll money! One of the things missed here is that navigation is a PART of the BAs remit. NBN members ... it’s not your river, it’s everybodies.

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Anyone who has worn a wetsuit knows that on a cold day the warming effect is most welcome.

No I cant be *****. Can you give me a reason I should do this for you? Why don't you ask the organiser when you want to know stuff, like I did.

With the greatest respect the Norfolk and Sufffolk Broads are the result of investment over hundreds of years. The EA, all the councils, central Goverment. If find the argument that ‘we paid for it’ a bit childish. Its not YOUR river, any more than it’s MINE. It belongs to everyone and everyone has contributed in numerous ways. Since the money seems important to you let’s talk about that. It’s £45 to enter the 3rivers race which helps pay for lots of things, but most work is done by volunteers. The swim, had a much smaller pool of volunteers so much was paid for directly. (Source - a chat with the organiser online.) I doubt very much if much money was made, if any. Perhaps the more grown up question is, if freeswimming is to become a regular thing, perhaps the BA could find a way of creating a contributing payment? I imagine that this event was seen as a test so perhaps if it bugs you you should ask the BA.

So it’s the money....

I swim in the Broads quite often. I see others do it. Just a fact.