diesel falcon Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 As some of you may be aware one of my engine,s ,has had an annoying tapping noise ,only on tickover for a long tome,so today i bit the bullet and took the rocker cover off it. My consulant and i(que vadis((where are you going?)) ) went through the tappet clearances,when we came to the last two valves we found no.3 cylinder inlet tappet VERY LOOSE....bet you would not guess why??....talk about lucky!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Wow If that was my engine it would have dropped the valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimbiIV Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 wow 2 springs on a tappet, does it boost power? I hope I can be that lucky Have you putt the lottery on? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat nee blownup Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Trevor, If you find any more screw them around the edge of your pontoon, it would help you go astern easier and there might not be as much gel coat all over the place! Oh that Que Vadis knows his onions doesn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Trevor, If you find any more screw them around the edge of your pontoon, it would help you go astern easier and there might not be as much gel coat all over the place! Oh that Que Vadis knows his onions doesn't he? That would be spring onions would it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Are the heads now off then Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Are the heads now off then Trevor No ,the valve itself is ok,we have the cylinder at tdc with the valve resting on it,there,s not a lot of clearance between the two normaly...the plan is to fit the new spring with the head on if we can,as no weight will be on the valve or piston we should be ok,don,t know what method we going to use as yet,but will save a gasket set if we can do it,i ve ordered a new spring ,collet washer,collets,and a push rod, as the engine has had previous work done on it and has an odd sized push rod(ie shorter,which works but means your at the end of the tappet adjustment range.Also after looking at the spares list on the website i think the previous mechanic left the bottom plate under the spring off,i believe this was the cause of the spring breaking. As the engine didn,t miss,or smoke under load we think we wiill be ok regards Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat nee blownup Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Is that why they call you Clever Trevor. "Spring Onions" did Sue come up with that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 ] Might make a tool similar to this!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmtree Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Hi, The spring has signs of rust, this can cause fatigue cracks propagated from a pit in the surface. Hopefully the rust formed after the spring was removed from the engine and the cause of the failure was as you suggest due to the missing washer. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 From talking to quo, the base washer/plate was there...we just didn,t take it off, so that wasn,t the cause!!!,the spring looks rusty but this is the flash photograpy in daylight it looks fine,from the piting on the spring i think it,s been broken a long time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 You will find one of these makes the job much easier. http://www.rapidonline.com/1/1/16068-valve-spring-compressor-lever-type-ohv-ohc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 That looks like a medival drawning tool!! thanks for the suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senator Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 You will find one of these makes the job much easier. http://www.rapidonline.com/1/1/16068-valve-spring-compressor-lever-type-ohv-ohc.html Couldn't work out why the description said to use with a compressed air adaptor or how the tool was going to hold the valve up. take it you fit a spark plug or heater plug adaptor and blow compressed air in through that to hold the valve shut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 That's right Ian, or you can get away without on many diesels as the piston is so close that the valve will not drop far at all at TDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Word of warning from the guy who did the work on my heads. When refitting the rockers don't use full torque on the big nut that holds them in place, it has a habit of pulling the stud out of the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quo vadis Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 And dont forget to close your sea cock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I've held valves shut a few times on petrol engines by filling the combustion chamber with string via the plug hole - is it possible to do similar on a diesel via the injector hole? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_9 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I see no reason why not, to paraphrase Homer Simpson; String, is there anything it can't do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 HA!,how long would that be?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Trev you could try fabricating a 6mm flat bar about 300mm long with a hole drilled in it to allow access to the collets and shaped at one end to hook on a bolt or something levering down to compress the spring and inserting the collets through the hole spot of grease on them for easyer handling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hi, thanks for the suggestion,i havn,t got the spares yet so havn,t thought about the spring yet.....,although the image of a tap spanner keeps appearing in my dreams.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Quite a few ideas on Google... http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... 1&aql=&oq= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 The injector and glow plug come together at angles inside the head and a holes passes to the cylinder so not ideal for string. This is the head in question so I would think a flat nail bar with a couple of holes/slots cut in it would do the business. I am sure this girl at the nail bar shop could sort you out. Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 I am sure this girl at the nail bar shop could sort you out. [attachment=0]jenna(2).jpg[/attachment] Jonathan Actually i went there for a long wait,and a wool saw!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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