ChrisB

CO poisoning or Carbooxyhemoglobin (COHb) saturation starts above 10%. So I think the argument of Petrol Vs Oil Vs Single Engine Vs Twin is really a bit silly. You want as close to zero entering as possible and that means turning off.

I think their really must be some sort of risk assessment made into this practice. This surely is a wake-up call. You might with a breeze on you bow be just fine but you have just killed the family moored at your stern. Apart from it being anti-social as well.

very sobering https://www.gov.uk/maib-reports/safety-warning-after-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-on-motor-cruiser-results-in-loss-of-2-lives#further-information Please view the video

And peoples views are always subjective. How one person views their veg will be totally different to another.

Just don't let your wrist get too close to the compass or that trip to Ostende might be Hamburg!

I have just read the spec on that 4 bore for sale at the top of the page. I am speechless!

Well you could Griff, It would appear that they build big blokes on the Kent Marshes. Perhaps they come from those lost miners who worked Betshanger, and Snowdon who once above ground longed for the wild Kent estuaries. http://www.johnforsey.co.uk/shotguns_big_old.html

When under previous ownership Lincoln had a OU 10 bore. The most recent I have seen is the side by side AYA Matador 10 gauge. The trouble is they all go about 9 lbs plus which is a hell of a weight to lug on the marsh. These days I still use my 12 for duck and geese but for game I went for a light OU 20 bore about three years ago and wish I had done it earlier.

Looks like it could be a heavy black powder fowling piece maybe a 10 or even an 8 bore by the length of the barrels. I shoot long barrels 30 or 32 ins but they look short compared to those.

You are most likely right Griff, the sort of money needed is probably beyond making a return for an individual. So a large organisation might be tempted. Do Richardsons still have their pubs? Or did they get out? I have not seen their figures for a few years but boating was only about 25% of T/O then.

Ever since I first heard "The Lincolnshire Poacher" I knew it must be a very sporting county!

I don't really see why you could not have a mix of private and public moorings. Now if we are talking of the desirability of having your permanent mooring opposite public ones and the turning etc, etc. Then that is another kettle of the proverbial.

I think you would find the locals would be very supportive of such a scheme though.

If you could secure change of use, a first class Architect and a demolition contractor to take care of the shop/amusements it could with a large injection of cash make a very attractive home. You would have your own moorings without having noisy gawpers a few feet from your back door as so many riverside properties have. It sits nicely on its land and is not an unattractive building to start with.

So I have heard also.

I have suffered exactly the same problem, but I know not the answer. Why should such a jewel of the British Isles attract such ill mannered, anti social louts as the Broads continually does? Read the Horning Regatta thread and such language and behaviour was evident there also. Your problem was a Richo Booze Cruise, but many private boats as in the Horning incident are guilty also. There are poor anti-social, badly educate folk who have frustrations which one can understand, but equally if not more anti- social types who just because they have a few bob behave in a totally unacceptable manner and they think it ok. Wish I had an answer.

Quite a few locals say the extra dredging to keep the outer harbour clear for the Sheringham Shoal support vessels and the subsequent dumping of the spoil has ruined a number of both cockle and mussel beds. Certainly the harbour looks much more sandy when dry and I know a bilge keel Westerly owner who says it is much harder when he is onboard as the boat takes the ground.

Unless "stern to" the charging formula should be linear. Why should a 45ft Broadsman with half the capacity of Wembley Stadium on board pay eight quid and I have to pay the same for my twenty footer with two of us. Maybe, just maybe all moorings should be pay by length. Maybe tolls should be banded A to Z and what ever your band is that is what you pay at a mooring.

The same happens on Barton with some regularity. Boats leave Richo's, on reaching Barton they keep to starboard as if heading for Neatishead, they then clip the island shallow water buoys and head straight over Turkey Broad and on to the putty missing the Ant completely. After all the boats have left you see Richardsons tow boat, dinghy in tow to enable a line to be passed ploughing across to pull them off. I can only put it down to the excitement of starting their holiday and not paying attention.

Surely a simple explanation to the novice is so easy. Markers are so placed for an incoming or flooding tide. Red to port or left. Green to right or starboard. So if coming in from the sea or going up river Red to Red, Green to Green. Keeping between the posts or buoys. But hire boats do not have navigation lights so how does a first timer know his green from his red? Like this: " I have a little RED, PORT wine LEFT in my glass." When going with the flood keep your red to red, if your green can see the red you may have a problem.

I have done it Peter. We came to a very abrupt stop on Chichester Bar. The boom swung so hard, hit the starboard shrouds and the main sheet screeeemed out passing though most of the blocks. The flood tide then rounded the stern so we were abeam to the weather. We let loose the halyard and got it under control. It was however a very benign day, we were all in our late 20s, so forty years ago, fit and very strong. I know that I could not handle that situation now even given pretty calm conditions. Maybe the helms regard for the well being of his hands was to blame.

I have done it Peter. We came to a very abrupt stop on Chichester Bar. The boom swung so hard, hit the starboard shrouds and the main sheet screeeemed out passing though most of the blocks. The flood tide then rounded the stern so we were abeam to the weather. We let loose the halyard and got it under control. It was however a very benign day, we were all in our late 20s, so forty years ago, fit and very strong. I know that I could not handle that situation now even given pretty calm conditions at my age now. Maybe the helms regard for the well being of his hands was to blame.

Hang on folks let us qualify that. Totally agree a "figure of eight" on a main sheet is not clever inland where it can foul trees, marker posts etc. But out in the real world to have total loss of your boom and a coil of rope on the cockpit soul is one step from channel 16 or disaster. Could you imagine trying to get control again on a dark and windy night?

I am unfortunately at the NNUH every day at present.. due to my wife needing the acute oncology dept. Being at the East End adjacent to the Colney Centre we are next to the helipad. As regulars for nearly four years we have never seen so many landings as in the last three days. What a superb facility we have here. Furthermore it was Norfolks under water rescue team and equipment that was called to Bedford yesterday. Sadly a tragic outcome as a mother of three young children in her 30s lost her life swimming in the River Great Ouse.