grendel Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 This evening thanks to one of our furry fiends, I have been picking up and measuring my box of drill bits, in sizes ranging from 0.4mm through 3.2mm in roughly 0.1mm steps with half a dozen of each this has taken a while, and I am still not convinced I have got them all in the right spaces, the digital vernier seems to make 2 the same size, then I find there are none the next size and I have 2 different lengths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Who am I to correct someone with your talent but do you mind if I be pedantic, you can have a digital caliper or a vernier caliper, you can't have a digital vernier, but I know you know that. Edited to add... sanding to 3000 grit, impressive. For those who don't know it's like trying to rub something down with a crisp packet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 not quite, you dont get dust with the crisp packet, I went in to a car place and its the final grade to get the area to be painted smooth before paint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfuzz Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairTmiddlin Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The reason it's called a Digital Vernier Caliper is that it still has the scale on it to read if the battery runs out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound2Please Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I use one daily its a vernier to me whether i pick up the digital one or the stone age one that I got way back in the 60's as an apprentice... With the old mince pies these days the digital display makes reading it much easier. Must get a digital micrometer to save the old mince pies a bit as well. Charlie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 yes one of those. I think I will dig out the micrometer, as what was happening was drill bits were falling half way between two sizes- some measured out at for example 1.05mm, when they should have been 1.0 or 1.1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Are you all ganging up on me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Wyndham said: Are you all ganging up on me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 well I could not help myself, I will make another 18 handrail supports in brass, these were just begging to be fitted onto the model. 3 screwed and 2 plain on each rail, next job to design the roof light / hatch.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 with the unfinished windscreen in place, hatch is busy printing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Let me know when you've finished today and I'll pop round with my new hoover and clear up. It's a Dyson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 so overnight the hatch finished so here it is before I head for work 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 So tonight it was find the right piece of wood, and some shaping work was done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I spy a mast! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 well it worked (sort of) but the holes are so close to the edges that I am going to have to have a second go at this (both the mast and bracket) and find some smaller bolts, or I will never get it to fold down properly. I think I will also extend 2 tabs out from the channel to allow it to fix down, without the heads of the bolts fouling the bottom of the mast. some lateral thinking required here I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 How about a rivet for it to swivel on and a pin in the front? Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Those nuts / bolts on the underwater fittings, could they not be pop riveted also? What about these? they could be cut down to size, these are M3, A model shop / outlet might have something smaller Griff http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3-Thin-Bolt-Through-Fixings-Use-With-Door-Handle-Rose-Escutcheons-30-35-mm-/142365065387?hash=item21259e80ab:g:tLwAAOSwrhBZAxbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 This might come in handy Griff http://www.modelfixings.co.uk/index2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 I see now that the bracket at the bottom is quite deep, and the pivot and retaining pin are set diagonally apart, this gives me a better idea of how I can proceed from this point. Charlie the bolts on the keel are 3mm stainless steel allen head, with brass nuts (nearest I can get to being rust proof), once I am happy they will be cut down to length and smoothed off. where they pass through the keel they are in brass tubes. As for the bolts I am using on the mast, currently they are about 2.5mm x 12 long, I can happily reduce it to 1 bolt and a pin for the retainer, these bolts in scale would be about 1 1/4" diameter, but if I go much smaller we will lose strength, though your last link does have some interesting stainless steel 1.6mm diameter screws, but with the screws at 17.5p each and another 9p per nut, I think for now I will go with what I already have. - i do have some tiny bolts in my bits box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 when it comes to rivets, I have those a plenty, not those pop rivets either, but proper steel rivets, I do also have a selection in brass as well, at the end of the day if I am happy with the fit of the skegs I may decide to rivet them. I have found some smaller stainless steel bolts and nuts, at about 18p each for 1 nut 1 bolt, a better price and in better quantities, strangely 2mm ones (the next size up ) are half the price (got some of those on order too). my bits boxes yielded plenty of small bolts - but no nuts, since I have now found a source, and as I spent a while digging in my bits box, I have decided to rebuild the mast support tomorrow now, when I can take my time and go slowly with these tiny parts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 work on the mast support started, I have decided to mount the mast support inside the roof, with the arms poking through, this way I can get a much more rigid support, work has started - pics later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 this mornings trip to Lidl was fruitful, they had some assortments of nuts and washers, so some were purchased, here is where I am at with the mast support, the brass bar will be fixed to the underside of the roof, there will be 2 slots in the roof, and two more in a timber mount above the deck. and then the mast will bolt through on a pivot, with a pin through to allow it to be dropped. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 I am a lot happier with how this version has worked out, all it needs now is a couple of vertical holes through the brass and wood plate for the mounting screws, then I just have to wait until the smaller stainless steel screws and nuts I have ordered arrive. I have 2 the right size, but no nuts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 well I found another of the tiny bolts, so I went ahead and drilled through the mast, and made a pin for the other hole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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