zoufry Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Vaughan said: It would not be more than 2 feet 6 inches and may be less - about 2ft 3in. In all the time I have been in France, starting in 1983, I have always been told that there is no connection between the canals of Brittany and the navigations of north east France, and that the Loire is not navigable above Saumur. In France there are 3 categories of navigation : The first category is big rivers such as the Seine, Rhone and Rhine, and large canals of "grand gabarit commerciel". Hire boats are only allowed to operate on rivers and canals of the third category and so these are the areas I tend to know best! It would be best to ask VNF (Voies Navigables de France) whose siège sociale is in Béthune. That's what i had found ;( Carte Voies Navigables France.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 That must be an old map as it does not show the navigable part of the river Lot, on either side of Cahors. It would be best to get up-to-date information by contacting VNF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Vaughan said: That must be an old map as it does not show the navigable part of the river Lot, on either side of Cahors. It would be best to get up-to-date information by contacting VNF. Ok thanks for your precisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, zoufry said: Ok thanks for your precisions Joint the 2022 VNF Card ;))) Carte Réseau VNF de Voies navigables de France 2022.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regulo Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 30/08/2022 at 19:12, YnysMon said: When I’m trying to insert a bit of welsh (we have ‘hats’ too) I usually resort to typing up something in Word first, using the symbols option and then copying and pasting. There might be an easier way, but I don't know how without changing you whole language selection. Actually, my forum name is just wrong. The ‘Mon’ bit should have a hat over the O which lengthens the sound of the vowel. Does this work: YnysMôn (Sorry for the detour from the topic!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Regulo said: Does this work: YnysMôn (Sorry for the detour from the topic!). Yes it does (thanks). However, though it worked when I put it into a post, it just wouldn’t accept it when I tried to alter my forum name. Very frustrating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimbiIV Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I think only a mod can change your log in name, but be prepared if there is a big outage all your old post count will be lost. It happened to me. Anyway you won't be you, to us all, if you change. paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Hi everybody. My project grow up slowly. I post some pictures of the boat before (when it was clean and used), and now after more than 5 years fixed. Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ? Thanks by advance to your help. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, zoufry said: Hi everybody. My project grow up slowly. I post some pictures of the boat before (when it was clean and used), and now after more than 5 years fixed. Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ? Thanks by advance to your help. My future steering wheel.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, zoufry said: My future steering wheel.... My documentation collect: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Hi everybody. Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ? Thanks by advance to your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, zoufry said: Hi everybody. Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ? Thanks by advance to your help. A couple of links google suggest: https://www.thornycroftengines.com/out-of-production-engines https://www.manualslib.com/brand/thornycroft/engine.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I had found something there: https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marques/thornycroft-manuel.php I think that is the T80D on my boat......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, JawsOrca said: A couple of links google suggest: https://www.thornycroftengines.com/out-of-production-engines https://www.manualslib.com/brand/thornycroft/engine.html Thanks a lot ,) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBerkshireBoy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, zoufry said: Hi everybody. Does anyone have some technicals information about his motor; THORNYCROFT, n° de série 3293, power 22,82kw ? Thanks by advance to your help. IF we take the 22,82kw and convert that figure to old horsepower units then that equates to 30.6 hp and using the Thornycroft link above you could have a T-75 engine & 31hp or the T-80 & 32 hp but as you can see the T-75 is closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, zoufry said: I had found something there: https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marques/thornycroft-manuel.php I think that is the T80D on my boat......... More complet for my English friends ;))) https://manuels-moteurs-marins.com/marine-engine-manuals/technicals-manuals.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I think it can be almost certain that this is the original BMC (Austin) 1500 vehicle engine, with marine parts by Thornycroft, which basically means the heat exchanger, sump (cale), oil pump, flywheel (volant) and bell housing (cloche en Francais). These engines have had other names, such as Tempest Captain and Leyland 1500. Caribbeans are advertised in old brochures with a BMC Captain engine. Some photos would help to identify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 hours ago, OldBerkshireBoy said: IF we take the 22,82kw and convert that figure to old horsepower units then that equates to 30.6 hp Quite true, but it gets a little complicated in France. French boat registration nowadays quotes the engine capacity in kilowatts. A pleasure boat of under 15 metres can be driven by those with the "permis fluvial" but up until about 1995 they were registered as having a horsepower of less than 9.9. So the permis bateau was known as the "neuf neuf". How this was calculated I don't know, as it doesn't have anything to do with the horsepower of the engine! BMC 1500 means, of course, a cylinder capacity of 1500 cubic centimetres, or 1.5 litres. As opposed to the Perkins 4108, which means 4 cylinders, of 108 cu. inches capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Vaughan said: Quite true, but it gets a little complicated in France. French boat registration nowadays quotes the engine capacity in kilowatts. A pleasure boat of under 15 metres can be driven by those with the "permis fluvial" but up until about 1995 they were registered as having a horsepower of less than 9.9. So the permis bateau was known as the "neuf neuf". How this was calculated I don't know, as it doesn't have anything to do with the horsepower of the engine! BMC 1500 means, of course, a cylinder capacity of 1500 cubic centimetres, or 1.5 litres. As opposed to the Perkins 4108, which means 4 cylinders, of 108 cu. inches capacity. Hi Vaughan, i will write in french because i don't now how to traduce it: En France sur le document administratif du bateau, il est indiqué le numéro d'INSCRIPTION et non d'immatriculation, il semble donc qu'un permis fluvial (que j'ai quand même) ne soit pas nécessaire, cela m'a été confirmé par l'ancien propriétaire qui le pilotait sans permis... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, zoufry said: Hi Vaughan, i will write in french because i don't now how to traduce it: En France sur le document administratif du bateau, il est indiqué le numéro d'INSCRIPTION et non d'immatriculation, il semble donc qu'un permis fluvial (que j'ai quand même) ne soit pas nécessaire, cela m'a été confirmé par l'ancien propriétaire qui le pilotait sans permis... Dans ce cas, je pense que la cylindrée moteur n'a pas d'influence comme en mer. Je précise que sur le certificat d'inscription, le moteur y est indiqué ainsi que sa puissance de 22.82kw, soit effectivement un peu plus d'une trentaine de puissance chevaux. Cyrille. In France on the administrative document of the boat, it is indicated the REGISTRATION number and not the registration number, so it seems that a river license (which I still have) is not necessary, this has been confirmed to me by the previous owner who drove it without a licence... Edited September 23, 2022 by ExSurveyor Google translate. mod addition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Sauf que la loi a changé depuis ma retraite, vous avez besoin d'un permis, mais si vous en avez déjà, aucun problème. Le mien n'a jamais été controllé en croisière, même sur la Seine à Paris! Unless the law has changed since I retired, you need a permis, but if you have one, no problem! I have never been asked to show mine when cruising, even on the Seine in Paris! In the photo I notice you have a whip aerial for VHF radio. Very useful for calling up lock-keepers, on the commercial canals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Vaughan said: Sauf que la loi a changé depuis ma retraite, vous avez besoin d'un permis, mais si vous en avez déjà, aucun problème. Le mien n'a jamais été controllé en croisière, même sur la Seine à Paris! Unless the law has changed since I retired, you need a permis, but if you have one, no problem! I have never been asked to show mine when cruising, even on the Seine in Paris! In the photo I notice you have a whip aerial for VHF radio. Very useful for calling up lock-keepers, on the commercial canals. Yes the boat is VHF equiped, but i need a licence to use it, to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoufry Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Hi Everybody. My engine is Thornycroft T90 / BMC 1500D 35hp 4 Cylinder Heat Exchanger Cooled Marine Diesel Engine: Packagehttps://data2.manualslib.com/pdf4/88/8748/874762-thornycroft/90.pdf?ebf1b85b9295caf2af8f72d92fee109d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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