C.Ricko Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 lucky it is not high enough for the working at height regulations to cut in we may need to get some underlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 lucky it is not high enough for the working at height regulations to cut in I think you may be surprised. Working at height is nowadays considered to be anything over 2 feet! Most flat bed trailers the deliver steel to site now need to have fall arrest systems fitted when unloading. I'm thinking trampolines may be better though. If anyone falls, at least they can bounce straight back up to the job to minimise down-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Anymore piccy's Clive?? We need another boat building fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 ok Jimbo just one as I have to go out This is the front bit. as you can see we have removed the steps to stop people climbing on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Looking good Clive Keep them coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hi Clive may i ask how wide is she going to be as that plug only looks about 8ft wide???? the shape is realy eye catching Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi Jonny, she will be 12foot wide, plus the rubbers.. here is another pic taken on Friday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodall_m1 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Getting on well Clive, but I still haven't seen a photo of the 8 foot removable section that will let you use this to make the mould for the 42 and the 35. Or is it going to be a chain saw cut... Not quite the straight bathtub design that let your ancestors lengthen Clear Horizon 1. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Martin, Yes, we get the chainsaw out, then the screws and glue, then the filler. we only need to make good about 4 feet of the hull side, the bottom is the same. here is a picture of the 10 feet we will remove, since this photo we have made the keel paralell all the way back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Clive I have another question for you how do you judge the thickness of the GRP when building the boat & when its ready & if there are any weak points? Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi Jonny, I dont know about Lloyds regulations but they dont apply to broads boats, generally parts of the hull have a double coat of gel (bows, chines, corners etc) then there is a fairly standard layup wich is controlled by the layers of fiberglass which are applied while laying up the hull, the layers are put on in sheets so it is fairly easy to regulate. If this means anything to you the thicknesses are basically... Hull bottom, 11 ounces, the keel is overlapped from each side of the hull bottom to give 22 ounces. the chine is normally 11 ounces, and the hull sides are about 9 ounces. there is a thought that the pigment in the gelcoat makes it porus so some dont pigment under the waterline but it is antifoued anyway so it does not matter. I have probably got something there wrong as not everyone does things the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 So the entire hull weighs in at 54 ounces Lol!! I'll get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 So the entire hull weighs in at 54 ounces Lol!! I'll get me coat Clive is there anychance you would let me see if i could lift it Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 So the entire hull weighs in at 54 ounces Lol!! I'll get me coat there are two chines and the the hull sides are 9 ounces each. plus you have to add a bit for the transom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Clive is there anychance you would let me see if i could lift it Jonny yes you could have a go at lifting the empty hull jonny but I suspect your arms will be left a little longer than when you started, I think an empty hull and superstructure would weigh about 4 tonnes. if you wanted to try and lift the mould then that will probably weigh more than that on its own as it will have a double layer of gel all over and 22 ounces (i think) all over then loads of cardboatd tubes fiberglassed onto it and then a steel frame and cradle fixed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 yes you could have a go at lifting the empty hull jonny but I suspect your arms will be left a little longer than when you started, I think an empty hull and superstructure would weigh about 4 tonnes. if you wanted to try and lift the mould then that will probably weigh more than that on its own as it will have a double layer of gel all over and 22 ounces (i think) all over then loads of cardboatd tubes fiberglassed onto it and then a steel frame and cradle fixed to it. Hay Clive if you could lift half the mould then thats an achievement. Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 I may have over egged the weight of the boat, hull and s'structure would be about 3 tonnes and the hull mould perhaps 2 tonnes.... anyway, here are some more photos, you can see the holes where the screws came out, some have been primed ready for the filler so that it does not rattle out while being sanded. The transom corners are having a few coats of the primer as it is fairly high build and is the best way to get the shape right. as you can see, the plugmakers are a funny breed and do not like their photos being taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Well you should have hidden their faces then Clive Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyfish Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Its coming on nicely Clive,always wanted to know how things were done from scratch so to speak! Have seen plenty of moulds and new hulls on my travels but never seen what goes into making them Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Wow Clive, that's got nearly as much filler in it as one of your old boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Wow Clive, that's got nearly as much filler in it as one of your old boats Hi Mark Personally i think thats better i dont like a boat where the hull looks to thin for example i like a hull to be like the bounty traveler looks like it made to do the job. Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Wow Clive, that's got nearly as much filler in it as one of your old boats yes but probably less than your old boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 yes but probably less than your old boat SSSSSHHHHHH! The new owners might be reading this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 not posted much as sanding filler isnt all that interesting Tomorrow (fingers crossed)we are set to paint the hull in a high build paint ready for sanding off before we paint it again sand and polish ready for making the mould.. I took these photos this evening, you can see some of the shape the hull has also more modifications to the hull we did were to make the keel paralell as mentioned before, the cut out for the skeg was also put in now as we will use an upside down piece of channel with a bearing for the rudder. The major alteration was the addition of the stringers, these were put on the outside as it would have lost headroom inside wheras now we can just add a bit too it to make the floor bearers. some boats do not have these and the large flat areas of hull can get a bit flappy where unstrengthened. you can see that all the sharp corners have either been rounded off or radiused with filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 God I bet the filling stage takes the patience of a saint? Looking really good now Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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