riverman Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Today I was involved in a conversation with some of my least favourite people (BA) and apparently Potter Staithe, which has always been a working staithe, is getting bollards to stop vehicular access. Just curious as to if any home owners or boaters in the area had heard about this? For as long as I can remember it's been used to load and unload materials to service the properties down the banks and if no other access is given, will have a major impact on those properties. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Is there one in Potter itself or do you mean the one half a mile downstream at Repps?I know the one at Repps is going to temporarily lose vehicular access whilst some work is done on the dyke bridge around March time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 The one right by the bridge, in front of Herbert woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ah ok, so they’re going to close the pullin loop? I’ve not heard that. I’ll post that on a residents FB group I’m in and see if anyone knows. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I assume so, but then I don't understand where the refuse boat will transfer it's load. They may just put bollards across where the telegraph post gate used to be. Thank you for doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grainside Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I am surprised at this. It would be a very big inconvenience to me. I use it a lot to get building materials down to my bungalow and will be using it in the morning. I shall investigate. Not another battle I hope! Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The bollards might be lockable thus unlockable, fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 This is what person thinks: I believe that the BA are going to add bollards to the Staithe at Potter, I don't think that it will be the loop part. I think that it's to stop people driving right up to the water in large vehicles where they have previously had horizontal wooden telegraph post barriers. Will try and check that out for us!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: The bollards might be lockable thus unlockable, fingers crossed. Not from what I was lead to believe during my conversation with BA, they don't want anyone using it as a 'working staithe' for insurance reasons. Be that private contractors carrying out essential maintenance or homeowners moving belongings. As far as contactors go, the ranger suggested that sorting access was our own problem, which is all well and good but not everyone down potter bank is going to be able to stump up possibly another £1000 on top of the price of the job just to get the materials on site. Closing the staithe in itself isn't an issue, time moves on, things change. However, if it is correct, is there going to be a consultation period with all the bungalow owners and relevant parties? Where would be the suggested practical alternative access? Repps? Hickling? Will the home owners have to create there own staithe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 If a staithe is a staithe in the general sense of a Broads staithe then I doubt access from the land can be refused. The BA has history where Potter's Shed City is concerned. I foresee a fight, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Is that not owned by the Parish Council, or am I talking about the bit facing HW? I seem to remember some time ago about having a spat from the PC over use of the staithe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 As far as 'shed city' is concerned, there are getting a few now of well above shed standard. Closing the staithe would only put people off from renovating and tidying up some of the less aesthetically pleasing properties. I believe, don't hold me to this, it is owned by the PC but run and maintained by BA. There is currently a spat on the staithe between BA and various businesses regarding mooring there, which even without my distain for them, I have to say they are handling extremely badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yes I believe this is a Parish Staithe which has been handed over to the BA for administration purposes. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 It's a shame if true, we often load/unload there and it is very handy to be able to pull up close to the boat. We'd manage, but some of the 'shed' users would find it a blessed nuisance... One question 'WHY?' Is there some change in use, some ongoing problem that requires this action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 perhaps someone has complained that vans have parked and blocked the view of the bridge from the camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I think it has more to do with liabilities, or atleast that's the official line I believe. Now this is purely conjecture but knowing the relationship BA has with one of the main contractors that uses the staithe, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the whole thing wasn't out of spite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 The BA is on record as having had the desire to eventually remove the 'sheds' from the Thurne. I say 'had', which might still be the case, but maybe by making things difficult for owners a new campaign is starting. I hope not because I rather like Potter as it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: I hope not because I rather like Potter as it is. And always was. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I can only guess but I suspect that contractor's vehicles have been hogging the staithe during the day rather than parking elsewhere thus there have been complaints. A problem easily solved by introducing parking restrictions. Okay, so I am only guessing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverman Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Buy why? Why do they want rid of them? With the current trend towards smaller more sustainable homes, I would have thought they would be pushing EA to sell off plots running up to the existing ones from the bridge down martham bank and show themselves as a modern progressive, caring organisation. Affordable housing for the broads. As for vehicles, it's a working staithe and has been for generations, we shouldn't have to park elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 A working staithe, agreed but maybe too many folk use it as a car park? A draconian response by the BA, maybe, but perhaps one forced upon them because of complaints. Has anyone asked the BA why? As for allowing more riverside accommodation, sounds like a great idea but I don't see it happening any time soon, not with the present incumbents at Yare House. Affordable housing, easy, houseboats, which takes us back to Thorpe Island and Jenner's Basin for the quick answer to that one! The BA as a modern progressive, caring organisation, I don't think so . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Could someone bring me up to date on this? I have always understood that the holiday chalets along the river at Potter could only be lived in during the summer months. Are they now being used as dwellings? If so, surely they should have road access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The person who really would know the answers is David (expilot) but I'm not sure that he looks over this side of the fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, NorfolkNog said: The person who really would know the answers is David (expilot) but I'm not sure that he looks over this side of the fence Obviously doesn't know what he's missing! As the man that matters in the shed owners association he should know. Decent bloke. I've long forgotten my password for the other place, also lost David's e-mail address, but I'm sure that someone here could p.m. him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Peter mentioned Thorpe Island and there may be a parallel here. Roger Wood is living in a house on the island for which he has planning permission, the site of which has been used as a dwelling for 150 years. When Thorpe Council locked off the public staithe they also blocked his access to a trunk road, which is against planning law, as the staithe is his only access. If chalets in Potter are now being lived in year round, with permission, then surely the public staithe is their access to the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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