Vaughan Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I did wonder about the M&GN line in Yarmouth and the old Breydon swing bridge. As this a Jarrolds map I suspect it will have something around the edge which says when they printed it, and on which OS maps it is based. By maybe Floydraser already knows this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Mine shows both the station and the railway through potter heigham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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floydraser Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Vaughan said: I did wonder about the M&GN line in Yarmouth and the old Breydon swing bridge. As this a Jarrolds map I suspect it will have something around the edge which says when they printed it, and on which OS maps it is based. By maybe Floydraser already knows this? On the inside cover it says, "This map has been specially drawn to supply all the information necessary for the full enjoyment of a holiday in Broadland". So I would take that to mean anything not helpfull like closed lines and stations would be omitted. There is unfortunately no border to the map as you can just see on some of the pics. Obviously there was a creative type working for Jarrolds at the time of publication! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairTmiddlin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Well it is definitely after 2nd November 1959 as the Yarmouth to Beccles line, which ran from Southtown through Belton and St Olaves is missing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just to revive this thread, I've just read a few notes about the Claxton Tramway. This ran from Staines barn near Claxton Church, through Claxton Manor farm to the river Yare, somewhere a little up river of the Beauchamp Arms/ Buckenham sailing club. Believed to have been 2ft (60cm) gauge it was for transferring sugar beet to wherries.., Built just post WW1 it probably used secondhand materials from the military, it went out of use just before WW2 and the track was lifted about then.. I've read an additional note it appeared on some Jarrolds maps, would be interested to see if someone has a map with that showing.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Would this be it, marked narrow gauge railway on my 1946 jarrolds 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 That's the one Thanks, it shows the route, which I had guessed wrongly as being nearer the pub... I'm now looking at google earth, and can see where the main run of the line went from the farm, but the detail isn't enough at the river end.. it could of course be buried under more modern river embankments.. Now I know exactly where to look it's off to NLS maps to see if there is anything there , I couldn't find anything before.. No, the tramway is not as far as I can find on any official map.. So sometime I shall have to go for a walk along the river bank Thanks for your help.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 have you tried the oldmaps website - https://www.oldmapsonline.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 the old os maps from 1918 seem to show a brickworks at the approx other end of the line, so it may have been built to move bricks to the river for transport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 That's interesting, it would give more justification for building the line.. Old maps didn't have anything new . I'm about to try http://www.historic-maps.norfolk.gov.uk/1946-aerial-photography.aspx but it appears not to like this computer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 This came up in a thread about old railways a while ago so here it is again for anyone interested in old maps: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=5&lat=56.00000&lon=-4.00000&layers=1&b=1 I've already had a look and can't find a clue to the tramway but maybe if you knew more accurately where to look it may be worth a squint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Those are the maps I was looking at, but it's not on there, I did however find this.. https://claxtonpc.norfolkparishes.gov.uk/history/ which if you scan down has a piece of the track showing , supported by two posts behind.. That track type is called "Jubilee track", often used at the time, in quarries etc. It can be lifted and moved by a couple of men, a panel at a time, and was often placed on bare earth so there is often no trace left on the ground. With the comparative lack of information on this line it's definitely a case of "don't tell him Pyke" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I think the brickworks was a bit further north, by the pub, the track certainly resembles that used to relay ammunition to the front line in WW1, i suspect there would have been a fair amount available after the war, making it an easy transport option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 looking at the kink shown on Jarrolds and the satellite version of google maps, it appears to tun alongside the dyke, which does a similar turn near the river, the satellite view shows the browning of the grass in thisarea, which may be an indication of a marshalling yard or similar, i would love to see the lidar of this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 https://www.lidarfinder.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 certainly traces at the manor end in the field immediately north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Thanks for the Lidar thing grendel, I'm going to be playing with that for hours now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regulo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just comes up with a grey screen for me, with "current location is unavailable". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, floydraser said: Thanks for the Lidar thing grendel, I'm going to be playing with that for hours now! Don't forget to set your filters from DSM to DTM. If you come across an area not covered on the map, give me a yell as I may have the data sets. I also have a full set of the higher resolution data sets. For maximum fun, drop the data from a specific area into a 3D modelling program. Don't forget to cross reference anything you see with the Norfolk Heritage Explorer which will also provide details of where to report new discoveries as well as a list of known sites and finds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regulo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 OK, got it now. had to allow it to see my location. Why? Who knows? !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I hope you lot are getting your daily exercise as well......!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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