craigmc67 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I was thinking of getting a bow light to use for travelling at night I have a forward hatch with a 12v socket so was thinking that’s the easiest way any ideas of a good led light that would be suitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 A bright light at the bow is positively frowned upon (and I think possibly illegal) as it ruins anyone elses night vision, you will be surprised how well you can see at night as long as you keep any internal lights low and ideally red or green. You will need the proper nav lights too, a foward steaming light should be shielded from the helms view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikertov Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 So should you only run with Red/Green navigation lights (on the Port/Starboard) and no forward facing 'spotlight' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Basically, yes. You'll also want a white light (but not a particularly bright one) at the stern. As others have said, a big bright 'headlight' will ruin your and everyone else's night vision. A 'searchlight' can be useful for finding entrances etc but it shouldn't be on permanently. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 A forward steaming light but not spotlight, a steaming light would be no brighter than the stern light so would not light the way, it all depends on the length of the boat of course as smaller boats would just need an all round white light. Spots have their use but not for general running. A badly placed spot will mean all you can see is a pulpit rail and nothing past it. Have a read here. https://www.svb24.com/en/guide/navigation-lights.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 To avoid confusion, "navigation" lights are red and green, worn on their own by a sailing vessel under way. A "steaming" light is the white light worn above and normally ahead of, the nav lights, to show you are a vessel under power. Both types carry a white stern light. What is frowned on is a spotlight, used like a car's headlights, which is not appropriate unless you are coming in to moor up. You can see much more at night without powerful lights to spoil night vision. I find the nav lights alone leave quite enough light when coming in close to a mooring. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 This is all basic stuff. Vaughan is absolutely right in emphasising the standards, disciplines, procedures of night navigation. What does concern me that some require confirmation, guidance, on that which is required. It frightens me. Even with very experienced helms. The weather on the rivers and broads can change dramatically within a few minutes. From a starlit night to thick fog. A calm night to a vicious squall. I have been lost on Wroxham Broad in thick fog, sea mist, Haar. I have been round that broad so many times racing in a very competitive Broads Sailing Cruiser. Reefed to the limit, on other occasions, "do we put the topsail up" of course they always did. do we need the large jib, yep, we will have some of that. I always knew exactly where I was. I still do. Except in fog, and adverse weather conditions. I know what to do. I am nervous of others. I know that this is somewhat controversial but should we not re visit night cruising with regard to those who have an expectation of a peaceful and sound nights rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 In answer to the OP question; We have/had just general 12v bar car type spot lights: https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/rectangular-led-work-lamp-3000-lumens.html which we use on dark nights where the general light levels are so low that the reflection of the night sky isn't reflected on the river so you can't navigate from that (and/or back in the day looking for unmarked channels), so these just light up the path. It's better than a powerful spotlight and makes it safer than nothing. There is nothing stated in the byelaws nor COLREGS in doing that is against these rules. OP just be aware that your alternator will need to keep up, ours struggles on slower speeds and the voltage alarms go of.. :( ) Also times where a spotlight is needed but indeed a rechargable portable handheld searchlight just for that quick flash is probably a more suited option and of course that ideally shouldn't be run all the time and the battery probably wouldn't last too long anyway. Indeed most of the time just navlights is ok and obviously on the broads you should be following the byelaws (which is rather cut down from normal COLREGS and of course the byelaws overrule COLREGS, there is an in-depth bit there about lighting and indeed you will probably see most broads boats don't follow them! (I.e anchor lights)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigmc67 Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 Thanks for all the comments I actually got the idea from watching a clip of the captains blog on broad ambition and wanted the same light as on the clip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 This what we have fitted, but we only use it to moor up as it ruins your night Vision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikertov Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Wussername said: This is all basic stuff. Vaughan is absolutely right in emphasising the standards, disciplines, procedures of night navigation. What does concern me that some require confirmation, guidance, on that which is required. Remember, not everyone on the forum is experienced, or even a boat owner (yet). Some of us are only at the very start of our journey to boat ownership, so are trying to learn and understand. Sometimes this means we ask what seems a silly question, or one that seems obvious to others. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargeandParge Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Hi Bikertov Let's hope you get your own boat soon as it is a wonderful feeling and a good place to be. Regarding your last post. The only silly question is" the one that didn't get asked ". Kindest regards Marge and Parge 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Hi Craig unless you mount it below the bows you will be blinded by the reflection , I have two car fog lights on a detachable brakit that i mount on the roof this gives a good spread of light down wards on to the bank when mooring at night and as it is above and behind helm doesn't lose your night vision and removes any shadows on the bank of dips or uneven ground. John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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