Good store cupboard items

[BroadScot]

On Tuesday, I shall be changing one of these https://www.google.com/search?q=citroen+c5+estate&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=T1JrVe-2JObT7Qb71oCgCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=639#imgrc=TfEbL6JyPFPJ_M%253A%3BE18Fo63iMYKLnM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcdn1.autoexpress.co.uk%252Fsites%252Fautoexpressuk%252Ffiles%252Fstyles%252farticle_main_image%252Fpublic%252F1-c5-front-tracking_0.jpg%253Fitok%253DmkkuY_8h%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.autoexpress.co.uk%252Fcitroen%252Fc5%252Ftourer%3B420%3B280

 

for one of these  https://www.google.com/search?q=citroen+ds5+d+sport&biw=1366&bih=639&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=q1JrVbTxN_iSsQS_1IG4BQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=Dt8ONSrdAawqmM%253A%3BMJoTAFrtP2xHGM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.ebayimg.com%252F00%252Fs%252FNDE4WDY0MA%253D%253D%252Fz%252FtlkAAOSw8d9UwDuu%252F%2524_1.JPG%253Fset_id%253D880000500F%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.cheapusedvehicles.net%252Ffor-sale%252F2014-citroen-ds5-dsport-hdi%3B400%3B261.

We have had Citroens for years.

Wishing you many miles of happy trouble free motoring Poppy.

 

 

Iain.

[RayandCarole]

Well having received no likes or comments on my post about Norfolk haggis I can only conclude that our members from north of the border are waiting with baited breath to try this Norfolk delicacy on their next visit.

A little history on the breed

The Norfolk Haggi were specially bred to graze on the north norfolk salt marshes these being flat they have four legs of equal length unlike their northern brothers who have short legs on one side and long on the other to enable them to negotiate the hills and mountains.

This and the fact that they graze on the lush samphire when in season gives them a much more BALANCED flavour than the northern version and are an ideal accompaniment to your bacon, sausage, eggs, mushies, fried bread and tomatoes at brekker (lorne sausage anyone) washed down with a large mug of tea.

Ray

Carole not getting involved as it was her brothers wife who gave us the tinned stuff

[BroadScot]

Oh no tinned haggis

Given one by my scots sister in law, made a barely acceptable shepherds pie

Cant beat the real thing im afraid

http://www.rutland-butchers.co.uk/haggis.php

Norfolk haggis

Ray & Carole

Ray,

 

My sincere apologies, I missed your message, I have to say it sounds a very interesting species indeed. When is it in heat? Does it go down well with copious glasses of the amber necter? Now may I   you for your mention of Lorne Square Sausage, the ONLY way to have a guid roll n sausage IMHO, I can hear Eric saying Naw frae here He blooters linky wans when on the Broads I am led to read.

 

I shall look out for this sassenach Haggi the next time I dare venture south. Most gratifying there are other versions of said delicacy! 

 

Iain.

[Wildfuzz]

This once popular sport amongst the nobility and gentry of Britain and Europe reached its peak in the early 1920s with gentlemen converging on the stately homes of the North Yorkshire Moors from all around Europe during haggis hunting season.  Back in those days, when large haggis herds roamed the Moors in abundance, a hunt would last for several days, with literally dozens of haggis being shot (or hagged in hunting parlance) in just one session.

A typical haggis haul (bottom) after a single day's hunting.

A typical haggis hunting session would consist of the beaters, or haggillies to give them their correct name, taking their haggis hounds, an all but forgotten breed of specialised hunting dog, onto the Moors and herding the haggis towards the carefully positioned haggis hides.  In these hides the hunters would wait patiently until the traditional cry of 'Hag Ho!' went up from the chief hagilly, at which point they would take up their gun positions and attempt to hag as many of the small but elusive creatures as possible as they stampeded past.

However, this wholesale slaughter of haggis could not continue without consequence.  It was in 1931 on the final weekend of the haggis hunting season that Sir Ralf Liopo of Hunniby Hall*, with his sister Flora Poil, organised what was to prove to be the last ever haggis hunt on the Yorkshire Moors.  Amongst his distinguished guests on that fateful hunting party were the Duke of Cumberland, the Laird of Lorne, the Marquis of Andouille and Count Braunschweiger of Austria.

Sir Ralf Liopo (third from right) and guests on the last ever haggis hunt.

On the first day, the Friday, not one haggis was hagged, even with the assistance of the highly trained haggis hounds. (In the above photo a haggis hound is held by Alf O'Poril, the famous Irish haggilly).  The second day proved a little more successful with a total haul of just eleven haggis, and the third day ended with a mere three haggis. Since this was also the last day of the haggis hunting season that year it can safely be claimed that these were the last ever haggis to be hunted successfully on the North Yorkshire Moors.  This is because several weeks later it was discovered that the traditional haggis breeding grounds were all deserted and there were no breeding couples or young to be found anywhere on the Moors.

In the intervening years between then and now there have been several unconfirmed sightings of haggis around the Moors, but the sad truth is that the haggis were hunted out of existence on the Moors and are now confined to the Highlands of Scotland.

[BroadScot]

Dear Wildfuzz,

 

I have been on the NY Moors more times than I care to remember, a lovely part of the UK. Its my understanding it was my fellow Ayrshire breeders who took two pairs of breeding Haggis to one of the lower points near Grosmount station, one of the pairs sneeked onto the Pickering bound train, but not being of Yorkie lingo, they thought after the train chugged up that very steep incline to Goathland, they had arrived at Pickering! 

 

Anyway, they headed for Ashfordly House Estate, as they knew there would be rich pickings there to feed off ! 

 

If anyone has heard of their whereabouts, please do contact the local constabulary there, I believe they will reply in a "Heartbeat" 

 

There appears to be more of the native species first bred in Alloway now grazing in foreign parts! I would like to correct both Ray and Wildfuzz, their Haggis wilny be able to enter the great Ayrshire Random Shoot Event as its only for the three legged versions! Sorry, but rules are rules!

 

I do hope this clears up any misunderstanding about the Famous Haggis, its a Scottish specie, First and Foremost! So there!

 

 

Iain.

[Baitrunner]

I quite like the smaller breed you get in Spain - the Chorizit - smaller and has a spicier taste and is distinguished by a covering of spots (not those type). Often seen in open fileds.

 

Unlike the rather un-palatable German ButtWorst - leaves a foul taste in your mouth!!

 

How the heck did we get here after how this started?     Talk about post drift.

[BroadScot]

Mark,

 

You'll have FIFA after you, you never mentioned the Italian delicacy, Lazyagneshaggi, and of course the Greek one too Athenihaggi both very moreish after half a gallon of local vino!   Oops and not forgetting the Swiss one....Toblerhaggis  Mint Flavoured

 

 

Iain

[Baitrunner]

Which now leads me onto something I heard on the radio this morning - In Australia Cadbury's are selling Vegemite filled milk chocolate (like Cadbury's Caramel).

 

Maybe the Toblerhaggis has it!

 

ps. Dont worry Iain, FIFA aren't interested in European delicacies as they dont pay as much              There goes my invite to the 2018 World Cup

[RayandCarole]

Iain

I spent some time on a scottish catered off shore installation last year

Sunday lunch was carvery with choice of:

Beef

Pork

Turkey

Scotch pies

Dont quite know how that works but I hate to admit I do like proper scotch pies not the scabby tesco ones

Perhaps I can persuade the haggis butcher to try making some Norfolk versions

Ray & Carole

[BroadScot]

Hi Ray,

 

The Scotch Pie is a strange one, and so are the fillings, depending which part of Scotland you live. The Mutton pie is still made but they mask the strong taste with extra pepper. Breadcrumbs are also added to some.

 

However, I would like to think the Scotch Pie you sampled was the good beef mince type, or the infamous "Killie Pie" I say that as I am a Ayr United fan and no lover of Kilmarnock, but the pie and its gravy is awfy tasty grrrrr! We do sell Haggis Pies up here complete with Neeps n tattie piped on the top. 

 

So get yer butcher telt, hes missing oot! Worse than that, so are you!

 

 

Iain.

[RayandCarole]

Well sister in law usually brings me some from Dalry

The offshore ones I guess were Aberdeen sourced

Both were delicious

Now the topped Haggis pies thats sounds like something I would like to try

Ray & Carole

[unclemike]

"lorne sausage" iain you are a heathen the only sausage is "LINCOLNSHIRE SAUSAGE "MADE BY A GOO LINCOLNSHIRE BUTCHER!

[Paul]

 

I Draw the line at French cars!!!!!

 

Quite right too, been there, done that, wear the t-shirt and bear the scars. Never, never again. In fact it was such a traumatic experience, and such a rubbish car that I still maintain that every living Renault director should be stood against a wall and subjected to 24 hours of non stop Justin Bieber. 

 

Poppy, I do hope you are not buying your new C5, much cheaper to build your own from the myriad of parts available by the side of most motorways whaich have fallen off others. In fact it used to be standard practice amongst Citroen dealers to have a dustpan and brush and pile of sawdust ready in the showroom, to clean up whenever somebody took delivery of a new model.

[BroadScot]

Hi Mike,

 

Nah am no a heathen, I was weaned on Lorne Square and Round Pork sausage, as my late father was a Hamcurer / Pork Butcher.  

 

Anyway, you should be having Bara Brith and Laverbread with you being Welsh. I do like a Lincoln porker, but do find them a bit too rich with sage and thyme etc.

 

 

Iain

[Poppy]

Quite right too, been there, done that, wear the t-shirt and bear the scars. Never, never again. In fact it was such a traumatic experience, and such a rubbish car that I still maintain that every living Renault director should be stood against a wall and subjected to 24 hours of non stop Justin Bieber. 

 

Poppy, I do hope you are not buying your new C5, much cheaper to build your own from the myriad of parts available by the side of most motorways whaich have fallen off others. In fact it used to be standard practice amongst Citroen dealers to have a dustpan and brush and pile of sawdust ready in the showroom, to clean up whenever somebody took delivery of a new model.

 

I've run my present C5 for 88000 miles without ANYTHING 'dropping off', no oil leaks, Averageng a gallon of diesel ever 45'5 miles over its life and apart from tyres ,some windscreen wiper rubbers ans one new window mechanism there has only been the cost of routine servicing.

You keep on 'dissing 'em all you like, it makes a late used Citroen remarkable value.

 

On the other hand, the Ford Mondeo which preceded it cost £2.5 K before it reached 55000 miles!

As for 'Germans' , had two as company cars and VOWED NEVER to run my own!

[Poppy]

Oh, and I agree about Renault. Had one of them on the company too. Even worse now since the merger with Nissan I believe!

[Paul]

the last great citroen was the CX, now that was a motor. Renault claim to have created the MPV with the Espace in 1984, the CX Familiale was a whole 7 years earlier. Sadly now they are cut down German clones, but, if you like tham and they serve you well then more power to 'em.

 

It was a valid point made that cars and parts often bear little relation to their badges nowadays. I wonder how many Mercedes A and B class owners realise their engines were built by Renault.

[BroadScot]

Oh, and I agree about Renault. Had one of them on the company too. Even worse now since the merger with Nissan I believe!

Poppy,

 

I had my Travel Scooter, TWO lots of females holiday clobber, my gear plus plus in that car of mine, the Scenic cdi and I am NOT a slow driver, yet, for the 989 miles I averaged just over 51mpg with a diesel engine that has not done 5000 miles    

 

My Nissan Note before that was completely trouble free motoring, apart from the yearly service, they changed all the wiper blades as part of the service. So I personally cannot say a word against either manufacturer. I do think though, a lot of  new car troubles is down to poor PDI in some garages. 

 

Now then, how do we get this thread back onto the subject of FOOD!

 

 

Iain

[Paul]

There was a massive rumour in the 1970's that Land Rover were paid tens of millions of francs by the French government to make Range Rovers so unreliable, just so that Renault were not the most unreliable cars in the world.

[Paul]

Of course nowadays Renault state they build all of their cars with the same care and attention they give to there Formula 1 programme. So lets see, that means every car goes through five engines a year and gearboxes only have to last three weekends.

 

yep, that's about right.

 

Sorry, Iain. Food?

 

Oh yes, was looking at that Cassolet in Aldo this morning, nearly tempted.

[Baitrunner]

Having had a good variety of cars that regularly hit 80k before they went back. The worse by far was a Peugeot 406coupe. Lovely car but bits went wrong from day 2 out of the garage!!!

And the list includes German, Swedish, Spanish, Japanese cars. Even fords and vauxhalls!

Maybe that experience tainted my opinion.

[DelticMemories]

I had a Citroen C6 for two years. Everything was fantastic about it apart from the cost of spares, servicing and weird electrical gremlins - so typical French really. When it was working it was a lovely car. Got fed up of it and changed to a Mercedes E250 diesel coupe. 50 mpg easy to achieve, cheaper to maintain and has never let me down. Did make sure I went for the small(ish) 17inch alloys though. The 18's and 19's that a lot of people upgrade to generate far more road noise, are easy to damage and the tyres cost a fortune.

[VetChugger]

I've had a couple of Xantia's. The first was when it was introduced and was the turbo diesel top spec. Never had a more comfortable ride in a car and its performance for a diesel then made you grin! I loved it. Moved from that to the very first Skoda VRS and that was a monster! In the best possible way from a drivers point of view! Used to leave all manner of so called hot rods standing wondering where I had gone!

[RayandCarole]

Erm the mod said

Back on topic food

Ray and Carole

[Paul]

if you want an unlikely rocket ship, try a Rover 620ti, they were brutal. I swapped mine for a Mondeo ST220 which was limp by comparison. I too had a Xantia, briefly as a company car, not by choice, it was on loan from the pool fleet. Great to drive but it broke down three times in seven weeks. The pool fleet got it back promptly.

 

Used to drive to Hinckley in the Rover with the excuse of going to KFC, but really jus for an escuse to drive it.

 

There you go, back on food!