Jonathan Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Polly, I think your guess is correct the home/student version you have does not include outlook. I have only just come back here, but see that others have had the same problems installing that I did. I too did the "install from Microsoft link" that deebee29 explained. I have only had a few hours to experiment, but it looks good so far! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You are right Jonathan, Outlook is stripped out but I can buy it for £95 (not)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Polly, Being a canny Scot, this link I put on here.... https://www.openoffice.org/ does many of the applications but does them for nowt! You can always delete if it does not suit you. Iain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddy Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It shows I can do my upgrade, I'm on 8.1 Pro so I take it I get the Pro win 10 version. Too busy to do a full system on the win 7 desktop but will try it out on there first when i've done it. Went back to my house to starting put it into storage to sell and my top floor man shed (complete with beer fridge) has pc's runing every win version since 98 (runs a treat) & Amiga's boxed up. Could be time to strip them down for the WEEE pile and scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Iain, I had Open Office a few years ago, but didn't really like it, mainly the presentation software wasn't up to what I wanted for business. Jonzo , we have a ZX 81 somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRolaves Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I have now downloaded and installed windows 10. First impressions are that its very quick. I had read that media player would not work in windows 10 which was a concern. However I have found that media player is there in windows 10 and works well. Dave R......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's not the first time Microsoft has given software away, back in the days of DOS, when disk drives got too small for their software, they included a piece of software called drivespace which compacted all the programs and data on the disk. Unfortunately for them they contravened someone elses software and had to rapidly give out a new version of DOS (6.2) with doublespace on it. it was given away free on the front of magazines which meant I went from Dos 4.1 to 6.2 at no cost! For the last few years the company I work for, has had a deal with MS, because of the huge number of copies of windows and office we use. So I got Windows 7, then 8, and Office Pro for 10 dollars a time with a two computer licence (download price) It is possible that those letting windows 10 Download In the background would get a download failure indication if they turn off their computer during download. However this should correct itself once it has all downloaded (mine hadn't finished when I last turned off.) You don't need to download it all at once, which is just as well with the slow Broadband speeds in many areas of Norfolk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 got my 10 and so far quite impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I took the time out last night to upgrade my win7 laptop I use to watch TV to win10 as a test. It took a couple of hours, but coped adequately, it does seem slower to boot up, but all my programs still run perfectly so I am happy. I didnt get the little icon to update from (i swear it was there last week) but I went to the website and used the create media link, which had the option of install on this computer. interface is sort of a hybrid win xp/win 8 thing, but has the start button. control panel seemed a bit hard to find, but was easy once I found it. It even came back with my desktop ready to go. just got to find and disable some win 7 startup programs that dont work anymore - a dell dashboard or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hi Grendel, I have a i5 processor in my Acer, and it booted up very quickly with 10. I wonder if it is blocking unrequired start up programs? It (10) has so many things IMO like the old XP. Or to me feels like that. Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 when I checked I had over 300 startup processes, have cut down a few that I know I dont need. It was only the first reboot after install, and I am still cleaning up the discs, so who knows. Grendel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillR Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 I haven't done the deed so far the offer disappeared from my tool bar for a day but its back now. they are really pushing it with adds on the telly etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillR Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 windows lifecycle fact sheet ..........http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/lifecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Hello everyone , as some people may know on here I am a bit of a computer geek which is quite funny as the other week I struggled to in bed a video on this site ha ha. I suppose I am fairly new to computers as I only got my first PC in 2005 but since then I have caught the bug been building PCs repairing them installing operating systems and learning about various pieces of software. Over over this time I have mainly been in Microsoft man started with XP professional then moved on to Vista yes and I listened to All these people seeing Vista was rubbish which in fact was not true the problem with Vista was you needed I feel the substantial machine to run bake processor lots of RAM and plenty of hard drive space. I then managed to get ahold of an operating system called Windows Longhorn and installed it on my machine one that I had built my self Windows Longthorne was about like all the good parts of a XP and all the good parts of Vista brought together and really was are very good operating system although it was never released. I then applied to become a Microsoft taster I was offered a copy of Windows 7 to beta test terms of a happy man installed on my machine and I have to say but I was thoroughly impressed , I must say even today I am still very impressed with Windows 7 and think it's been one of Microsoft and Baker offerings. Then before you know what Windows 7 had only been with us about 18 months when Microsoft announce Windows 8 what a lot of people don't know is Windows 7 Windows 8 were both being developed at the same time and Windows 8 was always about to come it was really a little bit naughty of Microsoft because a full copy of windows seven ultimate was around £160 many people of course pay less then after 18 months hello we have a new operating system Windows 8 so yes a little bit naughty. I have course I just bought a new machine yes you herd me bought a new machine, it's a long story but I have moved house and the computer I had built was huge and I needed to downsize so I bought a very nice Lenovo 27 inch touchscreen what an ice seven processor fourth generation 12 GB of RAM and a solid state hard drive very nice machine keep with Windows 7 and the opportunity to upgrade to Windows 8 so I did, I cant really say if i was that impressed to begin with but the touch screen experience I have to say was amazing being it was a ten point capacitive touchscreen , but as time went by I started to enjoy Windows 8 then suddenly we're getting 8.1 so I upgraded to 8.1 not much had changed really they had reintroduced the start menu that was all rubbish in my opinion but still I enjoyed the experience. So now we're getting Windows 10 and I have started doing the upgrade today but I haven't quite finished yet as three years have passed since I bought my last computer I feel that was time for a new one, personally I think three years with one computer is long enough I feel relieved to move on what's the times. Sort my new computer is the new 27 inch Apple iMac 5k retinal display with a fourth generation Intel processor 32 gig around and for getting up graphics and to top of all off it has a dual boot from OS X 10.10 to Windows 10, so it's all new for me never had are Mac before so I am really enjoying Learning this new operating system but that is so much different to Windows but I am getting there slow but sure. When I have finally finished installing Windows 10 and I get my head around I'll let you guys know what I think but if it's anything like the changes we have had recently I'm sure it will be very good. So I'm going to end here that's been my little rant about PCs I hope it doesn't bore too many people I find it all very interesting and long may technology keep moving forward to keep my old mind working. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Cheshire cat, I am still running my old laptop, bought in january 2008, with Vista, it still runs well and does everything I want (including CAD) and even better is still on the original battery (only about 5 minutes battery life now) for all of those 7 and a bit years it has been left on and plugged in (apart from a few odd occasions it has been switched off) its battered, now on its second screen, and I wouldnt change it (until it dies for good). when I bought it I bought a spare hard drive in case it ever died, and wrote a hard drive backup onto an external drive so I could repair it if the hard drive failed - it never has.I have never had to reinstal the OS. do I think vista was bad - No. mind you I still have a win 98 laptop somewhere too. Grendel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Grendel that is refreshing to hear, I thought I was the only person that like Vista any time I used to say two people all I'm using Vista they all used to tell me how bad it was but I have to say are you used it for a long time on more than one machine and had no problems with it ever. So great stuff I'm really glad I'm not the only person that enjoyed Vista... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 The main problem with Vista was..... every item you asked for anything in your browser, it had to be verified before you could move on. Drove me mad! lol It was just very security driven IMO. Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Hello there Ian that particular feature could be switched off and you would never of had that problem again, that was the first thing I used to switch off when I installed a copy of Vista on anyone's machine, and you are correct it was a pain in the posterior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampini Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Blimmin Eck..... Decided to go for it - all good, started to do the first Shut Down about 15 mins ago and it STILL says it's shutting down - hard disk light just blinking regularly.... is this normal???! Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampini Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 S'ok (i think), got advice to just hit power button and it seems to be continuing the upgrade upon starting up again - why do i think there may be a few more sqeaky-bum moments before this thing is done?! Eek.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Upgrade can take HOURS !! Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampini Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 S' already taken HOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Its a big upload.....Depends I guess how powerful your Notebook etc is. Iain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Have you had the Circle complete saying 100%? Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampini Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 T'was the shutdown before that where it froze! S'ok (for now...!) I have a progress wheel... progressing (phew) It's quite a powerful machine; bought to operate lighting control software.. I shall go into the sun and do some gardening whilst it finds it's trousers.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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