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Oops I've Just realise I've put this in the lounge and it probably should be in Broads Chat, can a MOD move it for me? Please.

For those who are not competing, but are on the Northern Rivers the weekend of the 3rd and 4th of June 2017. You are perfectly entitled to motor or sail or row anywhere the BA permits in the ways they permit, we do NOT wish to infringe on that. However.... Here I hope is some information to save you much inconvience, and heart failure by getting caught up in the middle of the chaos that can ensue in certain places. THE START LINE The Race is due to Start, at 11:00 on the Saturday the 3rd, the starting line being from the Sailing club across the river at Swan Inn Corner. There will be up to 150 boats competing, starting in groups of about 10 boats at 5 Minute intervals heading down river. If you wish to go through the start line, between 10:55 and about 13:30, you will find a group of boats sailing in ever decreasing circles on the start line, getting most agitated exactly on the 5 minute intervals (we use a radio clock for timing). If going Down river the best thing to do is to hold off until a start has just happened and then follow them, when you see a gap appear on the right hand bank go a little faster and pass. (within the speed limits) If coming up river Keep tight to the right hand bank, when the start occurs once the group has passed, go forward keeping to the right . The tide is going out this year at the start so the sailing boat should keep moving down river. THE River ANT The Next congested Point is likely to be the river ANT, given the choice I would avoid the ANT between Ludham Bridge and the Bure from 11:30 till 14:00. With any decent wind there will be hoards of boats sailing up to the turning point just below the bridge and back to the Bure. The river is Narrow the boats will have to tack one way or the other there is not a lot of room. If you Have to go up there, all you will be able to do is go with the flow and try to keep to the right.. South Walsham The South Walsham leg is slightly wider and by keeping to your bank you should get through, If a mass of boats appears all you do is slow down and keep to your bank let them go round you. Potter Heigham Bridge, Most boats will tie up just down river of the old bridge to remove their masts, then they will paddle like mad to go through and up past the new bridge before putting everything back up. If you want to go through, all you can do is follow someone. If you are going the other way, please wait for a gap. ( same in reverse when they are coming back). Please just be be cautious the masts stick long way back over the boats ACLE Bridge The boats will tie up both side of the bridge paddle through and put their rig back up normally there is little trouble for those not competing going through, just be cautious the masts stick long way back over the boats. The bottom turning point. The bottom Turning point can be anywhere between the Acle Bridge and Six Mile house, we do NOT know until the day where it will be due to the variability of the wind, boats always go round anti clockwise so if you arrive with a competing boat just follow through on your bank. The Turning Points are marked with a yellow Sausage bouy often with a basket and white flashing lights mounted on it, please try to stay clear of them as the boats turn. Once boats start reaching the Thurne, they will be thining out because you can go round the course in any order you like. Life becomes easier for everyone ALL of our boats will be trailing a red and white streamer from the back, so if you have an Incident with a boat with a streamer. Make a note of the Number on the sail and it's registration number on the hull and it's name. Asking us to Identify someone, saying it had a white sail and white hull denotes most of the sailing boats on the broads!!!! There are guardships (10 off) are scattered around the broads at the key points they can be identfied by a sign saying.... Guardship and a yellow flashing light at night. If you need to contact them about an incident whether or not you were involved. Please remember the Guardships are manned by volunteers trying to help, their prime responsibily is to the race and race safety. Individual boats are responsible for their actions and have their own Insurance (it's a requirement of the race) . PS sorry for the long post But I tried to cover everything , if you have a question or think I've left anything out please let nme know...

VV is asking what to do to get ready for next year, entry forms are normally on the Horning SC web site around February with a closure date at the end of April. SEE the Horning sailing club Web site and the Three rivers race web site(not connected to the club as you'll find more information there.

I'm not sure where you live but, if you are around the 20th May, then a trip out at Horning SC open day, would give you some experience, and as an experienced Sailor you MAY even get to helm. you don't say if you've helmed at all... We've had sailors from all over the world, come and compete over the years. Some successfully some not. River sailing is nothing like Sea sailing especially the 3RR, tacking in less than every 30 seconds from bank to bank from Acle to Potter for 5 hours in the dark is not relaxing... The continuous swerve from Ant Mouth to Ludham Bridge with 100 boats in a river at times only 30ft wide and the odd very confused tourist in the middle is also an experience... I've done the 3RR about 25 times in the last 40 Years, the best finish was about the high teens, completing the course is the main thing, especially for the first few times of entry. To win over all you need the right type of boat FOR THAT YEAR, because the race depends a lot on Wind, tide and race start. But there are lots of trophies for many different classes. A true Broads Cruiser tuned for racing, a Thames "A" rater would get you up the tables. but a Normal broads Keel boat could also win if the conditions are right. As for you to compete successfully, you'd need really to get some broads experience so you have a choice: Get your own boat, best around 20-25ft LOA, Draft 3ft, Tall easily lowerable mast. Unless you like the Pleasure ( or is it pain) of a dinghy!! Hire a keelboat / yacht from Hunter craft Historic fleet at Ludham / Womack, http://www.huntersyard.co.uk/sailing-holidays/find-sailing-holiday/ Hire a Keelboat / yacht from Martham Boats http://www.marthamboats.com/ Get out there and go sailing. Practice is what you need. Other than that GO FOR IT!!!

Oh Boy wait till you get the next power cut...... Years of updates all in one go...

This is deepest Norfolk, North Norfolk is the second lowest crime aea in the country, I regularly for the last 40 years have my landrover or car parked overnight in the sailing club car park which adjoins the Swan / public one. I have never had a problem. I've even left it unlocked accidentally, no problem.. In 40 years, I only once have heard of a problem, and that many years ago, was a bonnet mascot stolen overnight from an historic car.

The obvious one is the Swan Inn in Horning, I've never stayed there myself ( my motorboat you can see out of the window). But those I have known stay there, have not complained about the accomodation.

Potter Heigham bridge has a clearance nominally, According to the BA, of 6ft 6 inches. You therefore would need to go through at low tide, If there is high pressure weather. If there is a low going over the water level will be higher and you won't get through even at low tide. Similarly, I note, that today there are lots of large cruisers at Coltishall, we've had High pressure for several days, but they will need to get back through Wroxham - Hoveton Bridge (7ft 3 inches) before the weekend low pressure arrives or they could have problems..

Hopefully, I'll see her, as I count the boats round the bouy on Hickling broad this year. Must remember to charge up tablet and see if I can link to Hickiing sailing clubs WiFi, and put comments as to what happening in the race.. I forgot it and left it behind last year....

There is a Zoe listed in the 2003 and 2015 races under hire cruisers( and probably others but I haven't looked), unfortunately they don't give the true sail number or BA reg number so thats not 100% certain but it is likely.

Good idea, how about early June next year (2018, 3 Rivers Race).

Robert "Bob" Cecil, conservative Priminister 1887

Tesco's have joined in this for some time, I bought a punnet of "Slightly Imperfect" strawberries yesterday for 99p.

if its a hire boat fishing, I find it's often going along so fast the lure is bouncing along the surface....

Looking at the current state of play with the Coltishall road I would not be surprised to see them join on that one as well, all the kerbstones are in place. That's been down to a single lane most days recently. One thing I one thing I have noticed on the Colt road is they appear to have built in laybys on the slip roads , for the police?

The radio reports this morning, that the Salhouse road will be closed from today for the completion of the roundabout, which by my reckoning means they are running about 3 months late...

I don't think we have a guardship up there I think it's a little off course...

So your Dads To Blame for the Potty...

Not if you don't have sufficient power on they won't,and many a pilot has made that mistake!!! Everything I measure, has on it's certificate a figure showing it's degree of uncertainty

But is it or should it be a possessive apostrophy belonging to the Broads? I think It should, Broad's...

The Ferry doesn't Meet any of his requirements. Trying to Push a Wheel chair down the acess road would be a disaster / road humps and pot holes. I'd never call the Ferry, Quiet and on occations it's deafening even out on the water. I'd go for the New Inn Especially if he can book ahead for a mooring there. The Swan Second Choice,

Personally I'd add underneath the text, "It's better than that!!" But I share the sentiment and if I could be there there would be a badge

Welcome and enjoy the site it will be useful!!!

Welcome to the site there is plenty of helpful people here. If your Holiday includes the first week in August and you intend going through Horning, keep an eye out for the notice I'll post a couple of weeks before about the chaos we cause with Horning regatta, IT hopefully would help you through...

Is it a follow on from Dr Who?