marshman

It has no impact on me whatsoever as I would never moor on the staithe, but people are just over-egging the dangers and of being outside - and making up scenarios when and if such issues occur.And you are all assuming the staithe would even be full - without the hire industry that will not happen. My comments relate to the state at Ranworth mooring now - side on morning is just absurd in the current circumsataces and if I could catch it off a post, then I would catch equally easily off a post used by a side on moorer. I was merely saying, as I think Griff was, that the BA have responded just like they have with most things and indeed Mr Plod did initially, by imposing their authority on an issue which, at this stage did not really need it!

You would find it very hard, I suspect, to transmit Covid 19 from a rope on a bollard - if you really are worried, then wash your hands!! Who gobs on the ropes anyway? I can guarantee you one thing, and that is you stand far more chance of falling off the boat and dying as you moor, than catching Covid 19 in the manner suggested . Don't forget too, that not everyone who catches it, even gets ill - we have all lost our perspective of whats dangerous and whats not I am afraid! For what its worth, bearing in mind you will be outside, I just cannot see the risk in mooring alongside unless you really want to get close to the birds on the adjacent boat! It really does not take much to realise that if you sit in the cockpit of your boat, its no real difference between sitting on a park bench or on the grass - and if you feel it is a risk, just move away!! Just tell someone who wants to help you moor though, its not necessary to help! As Griff said, its not hard to stay that far apart, so why introduce the restriction!! ( It will upset Shrek in the shop if he decides to open!!!! )

Once again we see the BA doing something without thinking it through - we will be out in the open air and even stern on it would not be too difficult to stay 2m apart!! No real justification for that in all honesty but what do you expect from the BA in the present circumstances?

How quickly green algae growth appears on glass fibre. Isn't that right MM!!!!!

I have a cough which I usually get in the winter - not every winter mind but fairly frequently. Had it for about 35 years on and off and when I asked my doctor about it he thought about for a couple of minutes and told me not to worry too much about it as he thought it unlikely to kill me!!! Thanks mate!!!!!

Covid 19 incubates for up to 14 days and during that time you can show no symptoms, so for arrivals without symptoms how can you check? And if you were a devotee of Flightradar you will probably guess that those figures are a little out of date. Read that article further, dated mid April, and even the reporter who went to check that story out, found it likely to be an exaggeration and overestimation! Some people are still arriving on repatriation flights - send them back I hear the cries - but we can not lock the world down forever! We have to learn to accept that the risk of catching it is low, the risk of dying whatever age group you fall in is lower still and like it or not you have to draw a line somewhere. Everyone is pinning hopes on a vaccine but even when, and if you get one, who decides which country gets it first, and then who gets inoculated? Perhaps someone who bandies figures figures around would like to work out how long it would take to inoculate the whole of the UK, let alone the whole of Europe, and the world even IF you could get the product?? Which will always be in short supply methinks! Well I am off to the boat just to pat her!!!!

So how many people are flying into Heathrow every day? If you are showing symptoms you probably broke the laws in the departing country and the regulations of the airline and you probably at least had your temperature taken when departing by either the airport or the airline itself. When you get here, you could indeed have it, but are not showing symptoms - when and if if you subsequently do, you self isolate just as we do?? Is it really any more risky than being out and about here?: Surely the whole plane is unlikely to be infected, according to the best science, so in reality it really makes not a lot of difference releasing the potential into the wider community where there is already a widespread likelihood of being in contact with someone who has it the moment you walk out the airport door? Of course we are likely to have a second or third wave, but we cannot shut everything for ever can we? We have to adapt to it and cope , like it or not. Be alarmed or not by the figures but you have to accept some time or other the way we deal with it has to alter? Humans are good at adapting to change and we must find a way not to be locked down for a couple of years or so or the consequences will be far worse for many other reasons I suspect. I am sure many will disagree with me, but thats nothing new !!!

Good stuff - pleased to here it! I read somewhere that their marinas for private berth holders will open on 20th - shame they cannot extend their good service record, if thats the case, to their private berth holders. I apologise if that info is incorrect. A lot of the closed marinas opened up virtually immediately so not much of an excuse if they didn't, and I was a little surprised to hear they hadn't?

No it is taken from where Banks Boats is today I think? Good one that - threw me a bit as you have not been able to moor in there for years now - not even on the front.

You can of course mix a small amount of mortar in a Kenwood Chef or such like I suppose......!

Thats slightly different then!!!!

Just going back a day or so Ian,you mentioned using self levelling concrete!!! If its anything like self levelling floors for inside your house, be very wary indeed. I once helped my son do a large room in his house - in the end not only did it cost a lot of time and effort to even try, but it cost more to call in a professional to do it properly. I am sure Griff would have tales about amateurs trying to do a professionals job - watching Youtube bears no relation to reality!!!!!

No Fred that basic advice is far too simplistic a measure as you stated, otherwise you could use that argument for every single risk you take. How often did you think of the danger of actually going out in your car or walking along a pavement on a busy stretch of road? Not at all I guess, because you assessed that risk subconsciously and just took but it carried a real risk nonetheless I am afraid, and you cannot say everyone should stay at home forever and only go out as set out, just because they may catch Covid 19.

Chris - you are right of course but there is has to be a sensible middle road and a balance to be found. I just don't agree even responsible organisations are pushing the limits - just enquiring exactly what you can actually do or not, to avoid other issues rearing their head or over zealous interpretation of the legislation. We have every right to know that info just as others want to pour over precise numbers of deaths or the growth in the National Debt - all valid questions I am afraid covering both sides of the equation.

We all know that figures mean just what they are - no one is querying them but you have to be careful about making rash assumptions in these times which seem to be stressing everyone out. Whilst I accept that the situation in care homes is stressful and awful but doctors do not test every patient who has died for Covid 19 before writing and signing a death certificate - or do they? What we really need to see is the increase in care home deaths this year over preceding years probably over a five year period and then that is still no guarantee that it is the true figure. Neither will it be available until 2025! I am not trying to underplay the enormity of the situation and it is pointless reiterating quotes like "there is none so blind..." but statistically these figures need to be considered in hindsight, and I cannot provide that!!

You are assuming that I was saying the figures are too high - no I was merely saying repeating any figure is speculation in that until we are further down the line, we just do not accurately know what the true cost is. For example are we able to strip out of the deaths figure those that have died of flu - every year a certain number die of flu. Are we assuming flu was not around this year? Neither am I trying to belittle whats happened or the cost but my guess is that 5 years on, we may be able to have a better idea of true numbers and more accurately, the cost - until then I would treat all figures with some suspicion - be they higher or lower!

Chris - with respect those figures of the cost and the deaths are purely speculative! Someone is just guessing and you're just making it worse by passing it on.

Don't think its Fleet Dyke - too many background trees for that methinks.

Dear me - what a turn this thread took whilst I was on the boat!!! People lambasting Griff for driving too fast. discussing fisherman falling asleep on the job, and then some meaningless discussion on regulations and legislation - what a load of squit!! Roll on the time when you can start moaning about the BA - makes it more interesting!!

P.S. Nice to see the old boat today!!!!!!

Good to see the people of Great Yarmouth urging and pleading with people to stay away - thats fine by me its a dump anyway!!!! ( To be fair I know some people love it - trouble is they cannot have it both ways. I would have thought the very minimal risk is accepted just to get people to go to what was once proud seaside resort.)

Of course you are right but remember that not everyone who catches it becomes seriously ill or dies - in reality its quite the opposite so lets look on the bright side and if you yourself are concerned stay indoors, or if you have other medical conditions, still take the necessary precautions.No one is going to make you do things you don't need to, or want to.

At last - I agree with Pete about the BA. Having said that, it may have been better if they had appeared to have been more proactive, but I know it was happening behind the scenes! Someone tell the wildlife to go into hiding, the Margoletta will be warming up her engines!!!

I am glad I can now do it officially - for what its worth I saw no reason not to do it as I felt it totally unreasonable and if my boat had been in a locked marina to which I had no access, I would be moving at the end of the year! Not that that would be very easy given the general shortage of moorings!!

I think where we are today is that we can certainly visit our boat as long as we certainly meet distance criteria, and any marinas should facilitate this by opening, and I believe like Grendel, that you can actually use it - but not stay overnight as that introduces another concept. So to start with I shall clean it and anyone wanting exercise will be welcome to help apply polish and buff it off.....! And then I do need to operate the machinery for maintenance purposes - I also have a small mast for courtesy flags and burgees and which will now carry a small sail - about 3 sq.ft.!!!!!