Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'll have to stop looking at online boating adverts..... Whenever I'm not in the market for a change, I see a really clean looking boat at a good price. There's a Broads based Madeira 27 twin inboard diesel cruiser on Gumtree for only £13,500. The pictures show it to be in really clean condition. Twin diesels.... my recurring dream... never realised so far.... http://www.gumtree.com/p/boats-kayaks-jet-skis/madeira-27-aft-cockpit/1098349536 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Pity there is not a picture of the engine bay. Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Pity there is not a picture of the engine bay. Lucky for me, the temptation would be even worse.... Gumtree shows the photos in a very small window on my notebook, whereas the images are actually much bigger and more detailed. Such a nice helm position, much tidier than the usual scruffy offering from brokers at this price ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hi Strowager, For the price that looks like a good buy subject to having it looked over, it is getting on a bit but it is a classic style. I wonder how much it will go for? Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That`s a nice boat, but with twin deisels, on a 27ft in-land cruiser?, what a waste. I don`t think you need any more than 25hp in a 27ft Elysian / Madeira / Bounty for in-land use?. It`s the same as the Hampton 25, which were mainly fitted with BMC 1.5s or the Perkins 4108, but that was because there were very few small deisels to choose from when the were built in the 70s. Several Hamptons have now been retro fitted with smaller engines and i`ve even seen one advertised with a 16hp twin cylinder unit, though i think that might be a little bit too small. They did advertise it gave 6 knots cruising, but if you need an emergency burst of power, i think 16hp will struggle. Back to the Madeira though, and i think it`s a nice looking boat, and with that hard top, good in bad weather. I thought you already had the boat of your choice Strow?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 ......I thought you already had the boat of your choice Strow?. Yes Neil, that's why it's so painful to see such a beauty for such a good price.... You're absolutely right about not needing the BHP of twins on the Broads, but there are other distinct advantages. It's the utlimate in breakdown insurance, even for inland use. Two completely independent engines, gearboxes, propshafts and even props, with only a shared fuel tank. Greatly enhanced maneuverability, turning on the spot in tight spaces, one ahead, one in reverse. I know a few people with twin installations on the Broads, they generally cruise on one, alternating them day by day, so fuel consumption is the same as a single. ...and whenever they do go salt side, it's much more reassuring than a single, no matter how well maintained. , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 breakdown insurance? £120 inc VAT including diving and towing if stuck on breydon, discounts for engine servicing and NCB after 1 and 2 years? cheaper than lugging a spare engine round and maintaining it !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finny Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 you are only going to come this way once Strowy .............get the cheque book out finny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That hull was designed for off-shore boating with twin petrol engines.(there is an Elysian website with some nice pics of one out at sea). If I hadn't already got a Bounty, I'd be very interested. Maybe I should have a word with Jason and get him to put a second engine in Nyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 breakdown insurance? £120 inc VAT including diving and towing if stuck on breydon, discounts for engine servicing and NCB after 1 and 2 years? cheaper than lugging a spare engine round and maintaining it !! But think of the difference in call out time.... Wait (several ?) hours for the call out engineer, ....or reach across to the ignition key and twist it for engine number two. Even more comforting on a lee shore if out past the pier heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I had a flat battery sunday morning, just started the other engine, for 5 mins which charged the flat one enough for a start!!(and yes i did leave the charger on the wrong setting when i fitted the new batteries in the morning before! doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That hull was designed for off-shore boating with twin petrol engines.(there is an Elysian website with some nice pics of one out at sea). If I hadn't already got a Bounty, I'd be very interested. Maybe I should have a word with Jason and get him to put a second engine in Nyx Hi John, yes, i`ve seen the Elysian website, and very informative too. I particularly like the picture of the pre production model undergoing "sea trials" on the Great Ouse, take a look at the bow wave and wash, but it is doing about 14 knots, which was NOT breaking any speed limit, as there never used to be one. Re the sea going hull, yes, you are correct, but only the early ones. The later ones were re-moulded with a skeg for river use, and these i believe were more heavily constructed especially for hire use, where the vast majority ended up. I think it also says somewhere on the website, that one of the Madeira variants had a pair of BIG petrols, which were clocked at around 30 knots, though memory might be playing me tricks?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Madeira - the helm is on the 'Wrong' side Griff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaters Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 We have a Bounty 28 foot fitted with a brilliant little Perkins three cylinder engine ,gives us economy and as much power as we want even punching a strong tide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
650xs Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 the good old maderia nice little boot recylled eleisyain 27 amazing what yer can doo .................. we have one for sale too................. you have a choice ............... i like these too............ re break down use us if you need us and no fees for stand by pay as you go simple .................we tow while others stow ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Madeira - the helm is on the 'Wrong' side Griff Probably why the price is so low! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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