Ow

[RumPunch]

Getting old. Went out yesterday, engine went sick. Limped onto Barton and deployed mudweight first chance to sort it ( just needed connector re-seating ) but in the haste of the moment I've put my back out getting it back in again - agony today :-(

[Hockham Admiral]

Ian, Hi and so sorry to hear that.    

We swear by our chiropractor whenever that happens; have you tried one?

[ChrisB]

Being small I never suffered with back trouble, in fact I had a very strong back until one fateful morning about seven years ago putting my socks on!

You have my sympathy.

My answer is mudweight then shackle, then swivel, then No7 (70mm) block with double length of braided. Picture not of the best quality. 18kg weight now 9kg

[Islander]

Definitely go for the chiropractor route. Mine has kept me upright for years now. We go once a month and costs about a £1 a day. Much better than popping pills.

Love the pulley idea ChrisB, will add to list of things to do

Colin

[RumPunch]

Got me thinking about if I could use the mast A frame pulley system to help with breaking out the mudweight .........

Re the chiropractor, yes I have used an excellent one in the past, in Wymondham. May need to see if he can fit me in

[Hockham Admiral]

Exactly where we go! (We use Tom).

[RumPunch]

Andrea

[Polly]

I have tried a purchase solution for Brilliant's mudweight, but the where to site it defeated me, I tried the forestay but thought it was putting strain in the wrong place. As a saily, we can't have the luxury of it not being brought inboard so a bespoke bracket over the toerail isn't an option I'd want to try. 

Hmmm you set me off again Crhis now where did I put my drawing board?

[grendel]

I am sure there must be a way of having a bracket that pivots at the bow of the boat, then when the mud weight gets to the bracket, pivots up, swinging the mudweight between its two legs to deposit it on the front of the boat.

[Polly]

Dunno Peter, the foresail flies from the forestay,  and we need clearance for the sail and sheets etc. so we usually stow everything that might tangle in the forepeak. Sailies are awkward.......

[BrundallNavy]

6 hours ago, Polly said:

I have tried a purchase solution for Brilliant's mudweight, but the where to site it defeated me, I tried the forestay but thought it was putting strain in the wrong place. As a saily, we can't have the luxury of it not being brought inboard so a bespoke bracket over the toerail isn't an option I'd want to try. 

Hmmm you set me off again Crhis now where did I put my drawing board?

Polly, have you watched the TVs program "cannonball ", you could always try the Blob method and get Phill and crew to jump on the stern and the mudweight will pop out of the water and you can stand on the foredeck and catch it on the way back down.

 

[Polly]

Yes of course! Why didn't we think of at?

[Malanka]

Phil would have to put on 50kg then .. 

[JennyMorgan]

Polly, a roller on the side of your stem head would solve the problem: https://shop.classicmarine.co.uk/hull-94587/stemhead-fittings/bronze-stemhead-rollers/side-fitting-stemhead-roller-gm-516-chain.html

Such a fitting would mean that your mudweight cable could be lead aft either to a 'handy billy' or to your jibsheet winches or snubbers, if you have them. Alternatively you could have a short bowsprit which would allow you rig a block and tackle to its underside and even to stow the mudweight there. All quite simple really.

[grendel]

Here is my idea in a simplified form, you have the mudweight rope over a pulley on a bracket, once the mudweight gets to the top, further pulling results in the bracket swinging back over the boat, neatly depositing said mudweight onto the deck. I have not figured the mechanism to re-deploy it yet. (please note I didnt have any string to make the rope so had to use what I had, but it demonstrates the principle). Using the pulley principle to halve the force required can still be done here. the bracket does have to have room for the mudweight to swing through the centre.

[BrundallNavy]

Grendel you have far too much time on your hands to be making models, oh hang on that's what you do best lol.