Road Closure Riverside Estate

[Jbx5]

Any one on a Late night visit to there boat there is an Advance warning sign of road closure at the railway junction sat 10th Feb 8pm to 8am.

John

 

[Guest]

Thanks, I had forgotton about this, I am going to miss the manual crossing and the semaphore signals   I like railways almost as much, no wait more, ok about the same as I do boats.

[Chelsea14Ian]

We want to check on SK  tomorrow around 10.00.Any ideas?

Ian 

[quo vadis]

Err use the road

[ZimbiIV]

Ian, it don't close 'till 8 pm

paul

[ZimbiIV]

Must say 12 hours to put barriers up seems a bit quick.

Are they taking the footbridge down?

There was a survey being done about the footbridge usage and it was in need of renewal with no disabled access to it.

paul

[ranworthbreeze]

I was hoping that they would not go forward with this course of action, Station Road is very busy, boat transporters have grounded on the crossing and there i over 90 trains a day that go through the crossing, it is going to be an accident in the waiting going to an automatic crossing as well as putting at least 3 if not 4 people out of work.

Regards

Alan

[Chelsea14Ian]

2 hours ago, quo vadis said:

Err use the road

I was not sure looking at the first post if it was to close am or pm.

[Guest]

I had always presumed that is was still manual because of the safety aspect, but it turns out is was just because the line was still being operated the Victorian way. I hope they at least put full width barriers that cant be ducked under once down.

I will be at the boat tomorrow, and will stay over and so will be 'trapped' at Riverside overnight, it will be interesting to see what they manage to do in one night, not the whole job thats for sure, the full programme of works for the line runs until Spring next year and the footbridge is staying as far as I know

edit: just found this:

[Bound2Please]

10 hours ago, ranworthbreeze said:

t is going to be an accident in the waiting going to an automatic crossing as well as putting at least 3 if not 4 people out of work.

In one night they will not get barriers installed and working automatically, thats a dead cert. Unless the whole line has already been electrified signaling wise. It was still semaphore signaling when I was last there. At that time the gates were in an appalling state, so instead of renewing the wooden gates lifting barriers are likely just to replace the gates, interlocked with the old ground frame there just as the old wooden gates were. Also operated by the same staff in the same same way except they will no longer have to go out in all weathers to walk the gates across the road.

Regards

Charlie

[Vaughan]

The footbridge is probably a listed building, like the one at Whitlingham.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Vaughan said:

The footbridge is probably a listed building, like the one at Whitlingham.

Neither of which have been painted or looked after with the exception of new stair treads on the one at whitlingham since the year dot ! 

[Hockham Admiral]

1 hour ago, Bound2Please said:

In one night they will not get barriers installed and working automatically, thats a dead cert. Unless the whole line has already been electrified signaling wise. It was still semaphore signaling when I was last there. At that time the gates were in an appalling state, so instead of renewing the wooden gates lifting barriers are likely just to replace the gates, interlocked with the old ground frame there just as the old wooden gates were. Also operated by the same staff in the same same way except they will no longer have to go out in all weathers to walk the gates across the road.

Regards

Charlie

That's exactly what they've done at Harling Road, just down the road from us on the way to the St George's Distillery!   

[Guest]

The crossing keepers and signalman will keep their jobs for another year or so. Once the work is completed in 2019 and the new signalling commissioned everything is going to be controlled from a remote site via cctv

[Guest]

These are the new trains for the line, being phased in from late next year

They are bi-mode , so can run on either electrified or non electrified routes

 

[Vaughan]

Electric trains?

[Labrador]

Be interesting to see how the overhead cables would be configured on the swing bridges. 

[Guest]

No they are bi-mode and so are diesel propulsion but can switch to electric when on an a route with overhead wires

[Bound2Please]

1 hour ago, 40something said:

No they are bi-mode and so are diesel propulsion but can switch to electric when on an a route with overhead wires

Lot of faffing about that would be as under old regs the elf n safety playing with panto's was horrendous.

[Bound2Please]

2 hours ago, 40something said:

Once the work is completed in 2019 and the new signalling commissioned everything is going to be controlled from a remote site via cctv

Thats quite wishful thinking unless all the cabling and locations, and track circuits are in place now. As from what I have seen at Brundall the semaphore signals are not even motorised, let alone showing on a diagram in even a local box.

[Vaughan]

14 hours ago, 40something said:

If this is what they are going to do, still controlled from the crossing keeper's hut from a ground frame, so that boat transport by large trucks can be done safely, then that looks to me like a good modernisation.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Bound2Please said:

Thats quite wishful thinking unless all the cabling and locations, and track circuits are in place now. As from what I have seen at Brundall the semaphore signals are not even motorised, let alone showing on a diagram in even a local box.

Its a £68m project in total. Currently March 2019 is the target date to have the new system operational, the date will undoubtedly slip though and Rail enthusiasts like myself can continue to enjoy the Victorian signalling for a while longer.  

Full details here: https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/anglia/norwich-yarmouth-lowestoft-re-signalling/

[Labrador]

3 hours ago, 40something said:

These are the new trains for the line, being phased in from late next year

They are bi-mode , so can run on either electrified or non electrified routes

 

I'm sure they can't be introducing these to east Anglia, they aren't 50 years old. 

[grendel]

wheres the funnel?

[Bound2Please]

2 hours ago, 40something said:

Full details here: https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/anglia/norwich-yarmouth-lowestoft-re-signalling/

So its all going to be added to the Colchester Power box is it, thats a lot of cabling needed to be installed, tested and commissioned before the end of next year then. Time will tell on that of course.