RealWindmill Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 dont understand MM. you say it isn't unfeaseable and yet our society shouldn't be helping the needy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I apologise RealWindmill I shouldn't have made that comment. What you asked was why was it unfeasible NOT to supply. I just couldn't resist it. I should have put a grinning emoti after the comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 If there were an electric marsh pump house at Hardley Mill, which I think there may be, then it might be possible to tap something off that supply. Actually I consider places like Hardley and Rockland Short Dyke as wild moorings. They may have a made up quay or a pontoon but they are out in the middle of the tranquil marshes of what Timbo would call the Great Estuary and I don't think one should - or could - expect services of shore power or fresh water out there in the meadows. As a hire boat operator I know that boats can be fitted for the supply of medical aids such as oxygen, without need of shore power, provided you give the boatyard prior warning of your special needs, before you arrive. I have done that many times for customers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, RealWindmill said: Could they not charge more at the point of outlet to the consumer and so cover costs that way? i.e. more expensive cards ? under the regulations they are not allowed to do this, there was a big hoo-ha a few years ago, and research at that time showed that they are limited in what can be charged over to the user of an electricity post, they are not allowed to charge more than the statutory charge per unit of electricity provided, they can add a charge for the cards, but that has to be stated and separate from the electricity charge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 As one who has no need for bankside electricity and can forsee no need either, I utterly resent MY tolls being used for its provision. Let us not forget that the initial purpose of theis project was to encourage electric boating through the provision of charging points. There shoud be a surcharge on the cards to cover the costs ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, Poppy said: I utterly resent MY tolls being used for its provision. You are not alone in that Poppy. Perhaps a hefty surcharge on all boats fitted for mains electricity, e.g. a toll surcharge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: You are not alone in that Poppy. Perhaps a hefty surcharge on all boats fitted for mains electricity, e.g. a toll surcharge. Surely it's not unreasonable that the user pays ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Sorry, I didn’t mean to set off another debate about the supply of electric posts. I just thought it odd that Hardley Cross was listed as the one of the locations with them. We quite frequently moor at Hardley Mill if we want electric. Agree with the comments about it being good that there some some quieter moorings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Which could be quieter if electricity was available at these wild? moorings, no need to run engine/generators while moored there for no noise or exhaust pollution. John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Poppy said: There shoud be a surcharge on the cards to cover the costs ! aside from the fact that this would be illegal under electricity supply regulations, i forget the exact reulation, but it falls under the same section as electric posts on caravan sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: You are not alone in that Poppy. Perhaps a hefty surcharge on all boats fitted for mains electricity, e.g. a toll surcharge. I think that would be dangerous ground! Just because a boat is fitted for shore power doesn't mean it has to use it. In addition the provision of shore power is so paltry on the Broads compared to other waterways that the fact that you have it, on your boat does not really give you any advantage over others. Better to remain autonomous and ensure that your boat is so equipped that after around 4 hours day cruising, you can spend the night on any mooring that you choose. That is how I grew up, on the Broads! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 More or less a flat rate a bit like posting a letter no matter where it’s going in the uk at least it was when was trench digging back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Poppy said: Surely it's not unreasonable that the user pays ? It would also be interesting to know what the real percentage is of the many thousands of boats on the Broads that do actually plug in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Usually plenty of wind at Hardley Cross, how about a wind turbine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 someone would complain its out of character for the area 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, grendel said: someone would complain its out of character for the area Maybe not! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: Maybe not! That old adage that 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' was never truer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealWindmill Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 10 hours ago, MauriceMynah said: I apologise RealWindmill I shouldn't have made that comment. What you asked was why was it unfeasible NOT to supply. I just couldn't resist it. I should have put a grinning emoti after the comment. the apologies are from me MM as i caused the confusion with my bad grammar. Fell foul of the dreaded double negative. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealWindmill Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, YnysMon said: Sorry, I didn’t mean to set off another debate about the supply of electric posts. I just thought it odd that Hardley Cross was listed as the one of the locations with them. We quite frequently moor at Hardley Mill if we want electric. Agree with the comments about it being good that there some some quieter moorings. I for one was glad you raised the debate YM There has been some interesting views and information come out of it. In fact so interesting that in a minute I think i'll start another thread to cover post usage more generally over the whole Broads network , especially regarding electric boating in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I apologised as the topic had a big discussion an year or two back, I realise that will have bypassed newer members though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealWindmill Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, YnysMon said: I apologised as the topic had a big discussion an year or two back, I realise that will have bypassed newer members though. I was here then and remember it . it is right that topics are bumped and re discussed , not only for the benefit of newbies but also get updates on peoples views and pre-conceptions. Amazing how they can change. I admit to several, oh yeah thats right moments on occasion after reading others take on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Withell Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Hardley Cross? You sound Hopping Mad Sent from the Norfolk Broads Network mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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