Popeye Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I have just spent Sunday afternoon TRYING to fish at Coltishall, up by the old lock. For anybody contemplating this, just forget it. The place is crowded with people on canoes and paddle boards and the fishing is totally ruined. Fair enough, I am not against canoes or paddle boarders as long as they are sensible and try their best not to get minced with my propeller. It came to mind, just with the exception of The Canoe Man's craft how many of these craft owners are either BCU members or have actually purchased a licence from BA? I always buy a temporary licence for my boat and always buy a full licence for my rods but it appears all these people are getting their pleasure destroying my pleasure for free. BA please note. instead of putting up the price of our boat licences, check elsware to see where other revenue could be obtained. THat's it! Rant over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 We just tried to drive past the green 24 hr moorings and it’s a joke cars literally everywhere and anywhere !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylander Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 The problem is the Broads as we know it really since the birth of commercialism does not exist anymore. It is all about me me me me. Coltishall used to be a lovely spot , quiet, yes folk on the green but they were never invasive or annoyed anyone, well not while we have been there. The great unwashed have to spoil everything. Roll on when the airline industry sorts itself out. Peace will return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewcook Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Hi Hylander that's wishful thinking of this problem of people booked to going abroad is In a right old mess with Planes being Cancelled in every Airport in this country including Abroad and Holiday Agency's are still taking Holidays Bookings going abroad that is very wrong in my view and this must stop as too taking people money on False pretences that cannot take them abroad on Holiday and should be fined for this sort of sharp practice it's a good job we got the Norfolk Broads Boating Holidays that's my rant over with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Sorry if this upsets some but the Broads are there for and belong to everyone to enjoy in their own way, it isn't for the exclusive use of one or two sectors, I for one am pleased to see them being maximised to their full hopefully ensuring the future. Fred 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Weekends + hot weather = people are going to head for water. I agree that it's great that so many people get out there, so long as they pay their share and leave no litter. I count myself lucky I can go fishing during the week (but not at the moment, work has just come in!), which is what I stick to and leave space at the weekends for working folk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyg Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Who on earth are you referring to as the Holy unwashed ?? Wow. The broads have been commercialised since the 1970/1980. Some 50 years ago !! If its as bad as you say why on earth do you still visit. Sorry but I found them both offensive and arrogant comments. Live and let live and please try and cheer up... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I have to say I tend to agree with Andy regarding those comments - these rivers and waterways belong to everyone, like it or not, and whilst they are used and enjoyed differently by differing people, we shall always see all types of people and behaviour. Personally I think that generally its still very much ok and a haven for those looking for peace and quiet - yes its there but would you really expect either Horstead Mill/Lock or Coltishall common to be quiet and peaceful on a hot and sunny day? I am afraid you expect too much! Get Vaughan to tell you what it was like in the early 70's when there were up to 3k hire boats on the system!!!!! I can think of places to fish which are quiet and peaceful and places to moor where no one will disturb me - I am afraid Popeye I can think of quite a few places with bankside access without the crowds but just as I will not tell you where these are, so its down to you to find them I am afraid! Not because I am being rude or objectionable, but no one told me, and its down to you to ferret them out from a map or wherever - ok ,I no longer fish but Horstead Mill would be amongst those places I would not even consider!!! Sorry!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 it was my observation that the local youth population had found a new way to get to the pub at the common, by paddle boarding canoeing, and swimming to the pub from the locks seemingly in their droves, one could imagine this makes the carrying of age related identification somewhat tricky (well money is now plastic so that can survive the occasional immersion.) anyway there was a non stop stream of various craft launching from both the locks and the weir, it was lovely to see the youngsters actually getting out and being active rather than just sitting with phone glued to hand. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, grendel said: it was lovely to see the youngsters actually getting out and being active rather than just sitting with phone glued to hand. With how often some people seem to be constantly in attendance on this forum, it seems some of the older generation have their faces stuck to a computer screen also Seriously though, I do agree with you that it is lovely to see all users of the broads getting out and about, as long as we are all doing so respectfully of each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Fun seems to be a dirty word these days, as a member of the war time generation it saddens me to see so many ready to decry todays younger generations attempts to enjoy life, we did albeit with far less facilities. Fred 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, BroadsExplorer said: With how often some people seem to be constantly in attendance on this forum, it seems some of the older generation have their faces stuck to a computer screen also unfortunately as a moderator, I have to keep an eye on you lot 19 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said: Fun seems to be a dirty word these days, as a member of the war time generation it saddens me to see so many ready to decry todays younger generations attempts to enjoy life, we did albeit with far less facilities. Fred Fred, how many of us found novel and different ways to get to the pub when in our younger years, from some of the tales, - I think most of us. as you say, they are just trying to enjoy themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, grendel said: unfortunately as a moderator, I have to keep an eye on you lot I wasn't meaning you or anybody else specifically my friend, it was merely a little joke. No offence was intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewcook Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Hi Grendel looking at your post remind me of my Younger Days going out with Lads Fishing Around Essex lake very early in the the morning .Once finish Fishing around 5pm it's down to the Rubber a Dub meaning Pub for a well earned pint or Two with Crisps and in those day Petrol was Cheaper including a pint of Beer or Two those where the good Old days as I will be 70 years old this year to having found memory's of my Fishing era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 What I was getting to in my post is, how many of those craft are licensed? Ok, it is great to see young people abandoning their phones which they pay a fortune for but how many of them are spending what is quite a reasonable sum to license their craft? An unpowered craft costs peanuts to licence but are they licensed I ask? As I said in my original post, I am not against paddle boards or canoes provided they are licensed. And what about insurance? Now that is another can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, BroadsExplorer said: I wasn't meaning you or anybody else specifically my friend, it was merely a little joke. No offence was intended as was my comment, moderators are allowed to have fun too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Popeye said: What I was getting to in my post is, how many of those craft are licensed? I dont know, that would be a question for the broads authority, I am sure they have the figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, grendel said: I dont know, that would be a question for the broads authority, I am sure they have the figures I am sure if I wrote a letter to BA it would end up in the vertical filing cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Popeye said: What I was getting to in my post is, how many of those craft are licensed? Ok, it is great to see young people abandoning their phones which they pay a fortune for but how many of them are spending what is quite a reasonable sum to license their craft? An unpowered craft costs peanuts to licence but are they licensed I ask? As I said in my original post, I am not against paddle boards or canoes provided they are licensed. And what about insurance? Now that is another can of worms. How do you know they are not, nobody displays a toll plaque same as nobody displays a tax disc on a car. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Andrewcook said: Hi Grendel looking at your post remind me of my Younger Days going out with Lads Fishing Around Essex lake very early in the the morning .Once finish Fishing around 5pm it's down to the Rubber a Dub meaning Pub for a well earned pint or Two with Crisps and in those day Petrol was Cheaper including a pint of Beer or Two those where the good Old days as I will be 70 years old this year to having found memory's of my Fishing era Petrol was cheaper and beer was cheaper, agreed, but how much were the wages. Before her dementia set in, my mum often referred to how much things cost when her and my dad got married in 1954, but I’d imagine that as a proportion of a weekly wage, they were the same or greater. Just think how much a tv used to cost, even 20 years ago, against how much they are now. We can’t forever live in the past! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 my dad has kept accounts of everything, and how much it cost, I bet if I asked him he would have the price of a box of matches noted down from the 1950's to today, he also used to put labels on batteries to see how long they lasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Popeye said: What I was getting to in my post is, how many of those craft are licensed? 2 hours ago, Popeye said: I am sure if I wrote a letter to BA it would end up in the vertical filing cabinet. How many boats are untolled, cars untaxed, drivers with no license or insurance, anglers without a license, people who don't pay their council tax or rent etc etc a whole lot of letters to be written methinks, till someone is found guilty they are innocent and deserve the courtesy of being treated as such. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowrights Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 10/07/2022 at 19:54, Popeye said: I have just spent Sunday afternoon TRYING to fish at Coltishall, up by the old lock. For anybody contemplating this, just forget it. The place is crowded with people on canoes and paddle boards and the fishing is totally ruined. Fair enough, I am not against canoes or paddle boarders as long as they are sensible and try their best not to get minced with my propeller. It came to mind, just with the exception of The Canoe Man's craft how many of these craft owners are either BCU members or have actually purchased a licence from BA? I always buy a temporary licence for my boat and always buy a full licence for my rods but it appears all these people are getting their pleasure destroying my pleasure for free. BA please note. instead of putting up the price of our boat licences, check elsware to see where other revenue could be obtained. THat's it! Rant over. This year was our third time on a boat on the Broads, every time has been out of the fishing season and every time we've seen several people fishing. Some of them were even fishing whilst their boat was underway, crackdown on them methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 54 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said: How many boats are untolled, cars untaxed, drivers with no license or insurance, anglers without a license, people who don't pay their council tax or rent etc etc a whole lot of letters to be written methinks, till someone is found guilty they are innocent and deserve the courtesy of being treated as such. Fred I noticed on our local news today that the police in MK stopped someone in a Lamborghini in the city centre who couldn’t produce any proof that he’d paid road tax. Said car confiscated. You’d think if you could afford that sort of car that you could afford road tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnut Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, grendel said: he also used to put labels on batteries to see how long they lasted. My other half does that. It drives me nuts when I find his name label with date on bottles of tippex, sellotape rolls, the clingfilm tube, printer cartridges, bottles of sauce, cans of things like wd40, shaving foam, light bulbs etc. Just about anything and everything. Wierd! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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