Mince Pies.

[AndyTBoater]

18 hours ago, Lulu said:

We always have a steak and kidney Fray Bentos  in the boat pantry …. yummmmmm

Love a Fray Bentos. Is it described as a pie on the package?

They clearly don't have a bottom so can't be a pie. 

I feel a claim for a PPI (pretend pie infiltration) miss selling coming on. 

 

[Mouldy]

On 13/12/2022 at 15:28, ExSurveyor said:

What is one called that has a lattice top ? 😁

Judging by the responses, I’d call one of those a lattice topped pie, just as long as it has a pastry bottom!

 

19 hours ago, Lulu said:

We always have a steak and kidney Fray Bentos  in the boat pantry …. yummmmmm

Haven't had one of those for about forty four years.  Might have to buy one to remind myself why I haven’t had one for sooooooooo long!

[Lulu]

1 hour ago, Mouldy said:

Judging by the responses, I’d call one of those a lattice topped pie, just as long as it has a pastry bottom!

 

Haven't had one of those for about forty four years.  Might have to buy one to remind myself why I haven’t had one for sooooooooo long!

The blurb on their website says pie but doesn’t say its a pie on the top of the tin as far as I can see. I didn’t realise there were so many different flavours nowadays. 

[addicted]

I love those pies too the problem is  they don't love me! they give me terminal heartburn!

 

Carole

[AndyTBoater]

Steak and Kidney Pie = Pastry on top and bottom

Steak and Kidney Pudding = Pastry on top and bottom

So exactly the same thing but one is SERVED UPSIDE DOWN

 

If I bung an apple pie on a plate and then put another one next to it but upside down does one become a pudding?

It seems to me that someone needs to urgently look into this.

[Chelsea14Ian]

It's only a pudding when it's a Suet pudding mix.

 

[AndyTBoater]

2 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:

It's only a pudding when it's a Suet pudding mix.

 

So, according to Tesco (with my highlighting)

"With our Atora Vegetable Shredded Suet, you'll make flaky pies and heart-warming casseroles that friends and family will love"

Pastry can be made with flour, fat and water. Suet is the fat. Which means Suet pudding is made from pastry. QED

Also - Delia says its a pastry 

If Delia says its pastry - then its pastry

Also, where do we all stand on flaky v shortcrust pastry on Mince Pies?

 

This could go on and on. 

[Gracie]

To quote Shakespeare (kind of) ...... A pie or not a pie, that is the question 

Oh goodness, do we all need to get out more x

[Puddleduck2]

I dare anyone to have more than one steak & kidney pudding at The Recruiting sergeant.

I'm sorry if this thread is really for Mince Pies!.

[AndyTBoater]

14 minutes ago, Puddleduck2 said:

I'm sorry if this thread is really for Mince Pies!.

It was but the thread drift is playing into my hands

At the moment I am in the lead of the pie eating contest. (5) 

Only 10 days to go and I will win if this keeps up. Yay for me winning!!!  

[Chelsea14Ian]

I'm not wrong. Almost 50 years as a Chef 

 

 

 

Taught by the best,French ,English and European. Where as she is self taught. 

 

 

 

Yes suet is infact made from shredded beef fat and can be made from shredded vegetable fat.Then to make the paste half suet to self raising flour,a pinch of salt lined pudding basin,filled with steak& kidney mix together with a rich gravy a little 🌿 herbs top with suet lid.Cover with paper lid ,foil.If as Traditional cooked from raw steam for about 3 hours on a rolling boil.

Mincepies: Sweet pastry is perhaps the best or shortcrust.

 

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[MargeandParge]

22 hours ago, AndyTBoater said:

Love a Fray Bentos. Is it described as a pie on the package?

They clearly don't have a bottom so can't be a pie. 

I feel a claim for a PPI (pretend pie infiltration) miss selling coming on. 

 

What do you mean don't have a bottom? Always cut mine with a hack saw they do take some chewing but I thought it was all part of the enjoyment. .kindest Regards Marge and Parge 

[Mouldy]

5 hours ago, AndyTBoater said:

Steak and Kidney Pie = Pastry on top and bottom

Steak and Kidney Pudding = Pastry on top and bottom

So exactly the same thing but one is SERVED UPSIDE DOWN

No, wrong!

Pie is baked, but a Steak and Kidney pudding is steamed.

[AndyTBoater]

And black pudding has no pastry and is fried. 

No wonder the world is such a mess. 

I defer to the cheffy knowledge of my peers with regards to pies/pudding. 

Just in. Case you were wondering,  my total consumption to date is 6 mince pies. 

[MargeandParge]

6 minutes ago, AndyTBoater said:

And black pudding has no pastry and is fried. 

No wonder the world is such a mess. 

I defer to the cheffy knowledge of my peers with regards to pies/pudding. 

Just in. Case you were wondering,  my total consumption to date is 6 mince pies. 

If you stay consuming at this rate next year's Broads cruise should be in a Viking Long Boat to work those calories off .

Kindest Regards Marge and Parge 

 

[OldBerkshireBoy]

12 minutes ago, AndyTBoater said:

And black pudding has no pastry and is fried. 

No wonder the world is such a mess. 

On that theme is a Jafa cake a cake or a biscuit.

[MargeandParge]

Old Berkshire Boy 

Only ever referred to Jaffa Cakes in the plural never eaten just one only several at a time always Jaffa Cakes 

Regards Marge and Parge 

[Mouldy]

1 hour ago, AndyTBoater said:

Just in. Case you were wondering,  my total consumption to date is 6 mince pies. 

Six pies singular or boxes?  I’ll admit to commencing my mince pie consumption about a month ago, but I’m fairly certain that I’m currently on my 6th box.

[Andrewcook]

Hi, Mouldy what mines do you like Marks & Spencer  /  Tescos /  Sainsburys /  Waitrose / Coop/ Morrisons /  Aldi / Lidel? I take Tescos very nice 6 Mince Pies.

[webntweb]

1 hour ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:

On that theme is a Jafa cake a cake or a biscuit.

 a court ruling in 1991 sided with McVities that Jaffa Cakes were a cake and not a biscuit

[Chelsea14Ian]

The courts are not always  correct. 

[OldBerkshireBoy]

8 minutes ago, webntweb said:

 a court ruling in 1991 sided with McVities that Jaffa Cakes were a cake and not a biscuit

Wow was it that long ago, wasnt it something to do with pricing or taxes.

[Mouldy]

13 minutes ago, Andrewcook said:

Hi, Mouldy what mines do you like Marks & Spencer  /  Tescos /  Sainsburys /  Waitrose / Coop/ Morrisons /  Aldi / Lidel? I take Tescos very nice 6 Mince Pies.

Tesco (Finest) and Aldi with Port and Brandy.  Currently have a box of Aldi with Sloe Gin.

[Gracie]

1 hour ago, OldBerkshireBoy said:

On that theme is a Jafa cake a cake or a biscuit.

Its definitely a cake, something in the name gives it away 

I adore them and can't just have the one. How do you eat yours, eat one whole, bite in half or nibble around the edges until you're left with the chocolate orangy bit in the middle, yum? x

[ExSurveyor]

A cake will lose moisture if left out and go hard and a biscuit will absorb moisture and go soft.