ranworthbreeze Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/broads_authority_committee_member_says_body_has_no_proper_scrutiny_procedures_1_4649652 Quote
marshman Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 Something new then - hardly worth a story in the EDP!! Same old,same old....!! Quote
Timbo Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 1 hour ago, marshman said: Something new then - hardly worth a story in the EDP!! Same old,same old....!! You are right there MM, it is very much a case of 'same old, same old'. Hopefully the antics at executive level will start to be more widely reported and something will be done soon to address the pachyderm in the ziggurat. In the current political climate the Broads Authority is an anachronism and is quickly becoming as antiquated and ever so slightly more sinister than the Milk Marketing Board. It may take a while for the current incumbents of Westminster to differentiate between the terminus of the alimentary tract and medial epicondyle of the humerus but eventually they will get around to implementing policy. Interestingly that policy centers on the removal of the governing structures of organisations, such as the Broads Authority, in rural areas both domestic and foreign, and 'encouraging democratic decentralisation'. The policy in effect wishes to instate institutionalised democracy into organisations 'in which political agency and access to information are frequently limited by traditional and modern-bureaucratic systems of hierarchy and control'. And that is exactly the case we have with the Broads Authority. 5 Quote
marshman Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 Hmmm - you really think thats likely???? Not sure I would be quite as optimistic as you and even if i were, I am not sure some of those advocates of change would be able to manage without stirring the locals up even more!!!! 1 Quote
Oddfellow Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 With an entirely unelected PM, why should Westminster worry about an entirely unelected BA? 5 Quote
Timbo Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Hi Andy, enjoyed meeting you at Aquafax a few weeks back, nice to put a face to the name. Got sorted out in the end...just got to get the boat in the water now. To be honest I don't have an answer at the minute, not that I entertain much hope of getting a straight one anyway, but I'm hoping to at least put the question in a couple of weeks time at a faculty dinner. I usually head straight for the free bar on these occasions but might just ask the question...before heading to the free bar of course. I will post if I find anything out. Quote
TheQ Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 42 minutes ago, FreedomBoatingHols said: With an entirely unelected PM, why should Westminster worry about an entirely unelected BA? We have a parlimentary sytem in the UK the PM is just chairman of the cabinet and has no executive authority on His/her own. Even though certain PMs in the past tried to make it seem otherwise. There is no need to spend vast sums of money on a PM election, when all (most of the time) of the cabinet are elected. 1 Quote
JennyMorgan Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, TheQ said: We have a parlimentary sytem in the UK the PM is just chairman of the cabinet and has no executive authority on His/her own. Even though certain PMs in the past tried to make it seem otherwise. There is no need to spend vast sums of money on a PM election, when all (most of the time) of the cabinet are elected. In principle that sounds perfect. Imagine if the civil service that supports our government was to take control, that that civil service was dominated by just one man, that that one man was to seek the replacement of MPs who took issue with him or questioned decisions of his officers, gosh, there would be an uproar and outcry! So why is the Broads Authority allowed to operate in that manner? 3 Quote
TheQ Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: In principle that sounds perfect. Imagine if the civil service that supports our government was to take control, that that civil service was dominated by just one man, that that one man was to seek the replacement of MPs who took issue with him or questioned decisions of his officers, gosh, there would be an uproar and outcry! So why is the Broads Authority allowed to operate in that manner? Now that is a good question. 1 Quote
imtamping2 Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Is it me or does this scenario sound like a dictatorship to anyone else.......????? 3 Quote
BroadAmbition Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Sound Like? I would offer it is far more crystal clear Griff Quote
ZimbiIV Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Dictatorship. Certainly not! Egoism possibly. Tyranny maybe. Delusionism yes. paul 2 Quote
JennyMorgan Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 To that list I would add self aggrandizement. I agree that it is not dictatorship in the generally accepted sense but in my experience there is a high level of excessive control and manipulation, one man's thumb print will be there. Re the Halvergate saga, no question that moves have been made, and witnessed, by that one man to have an elected representative replaced. No Idia Amin, I agree, but it is certainly an unhealthy and unacceptable level of control. In the private sector it might be acceptable, targeted leadership, but in this instance the job of leader of the Authority is that of the Chairman, not the Chief Executive. The agenda and drive should come from the committee that is theoretically the Broads Authority, not the CEO. Quote
Poppy Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 On 10/08/2016 at 9:19 AM, TheQ said: We have a parlimentary sytem in the UK the PM is just chairman of the cabinet and has no executive authority on His/her own. Even though certain PMs in the past tried to make it seem otherwise. There is no need to spend vast sums of money on a PM election, when all (most of the time) of the cabinet are elected. I'm tempted - sorely tempted , but we don't 'do' politics on here..... 1 Quote
JennyMorgan Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Poppy, save your spleen for Broads politics! 1 Quote
imtamping2 Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I agree JM no venting on a Thursday............. wait till Friday. Quote
BroadScot Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 As much as I like political debate, can we please give it a miss on this thread. Ta muchly. 3 Quote
JennyMorgan Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 5 hours ago, BroadScot said: As much as I like political debate, can we please give it a miss on this thread. Ta muchly. Can we do it on another thread then, pretty please? 1 Quote
BroadScot Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 47 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: Can we do it on another thread then, pretty please? You can try JM but you know what the result is liable to be ! 1 Quote
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