Vaughan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, webntweb said: I seem to remember the pub opposite the end of station road as the White Horse. So do I. It was full of genuine antique horse brasses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Common in the seventies. Prawn cocktail, Chicken Kiev, Black Forest Gateau. Washed down with Blue nun,or worse still Spanish Sauternes,which was wrong at every level and now illegal. Cheese fondue, cheese and pineapple hedgehogs,little squared canapes covered in aspic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said: Common in the seventies. Prawn cocktail, Chicken Kiev, Black Forest Gateau. Washed down with Blue nun,or worse still Spanish Sauternes,which was wrong at every level and now illegal. Cheese fondue, cheese and pineapple hedgehogs,little squared canapes covered in aspic. Oh happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said: Common in the seventies. Prawn cocktail, Chicken Kiev, Black Forest Gateau. Washed down with Blue nun,or worse still Spanish Sauternes,which was wrong at every level and now illegal. Cheese fondue, cheese and pineapple hedgehogs,little squared canapes covered in aspic. Ian - what makes you say Spanish Sauternes is now ‘illegal’? (I was never a Sauternes fan but my grandparents used to buy it at Christmas as a seasonal treat.) Mateus Rose was very popular then too. How our wings have spread as the years have gone by! 🍷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said: Common in the seventies. Prawn cocktail, Chicken Kiev, Black Forest Gateau. Washed down with Blue nun,or worse still Spanish Sauternes,which was wrong at every level and now illegal. Cheese fondue, cheese and pineapple hedgehogs,little squared canapes covered in aspic. Ah! Berni Inns, the pinnacle of fine dining when you wanted to impress a new laydee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, vanessan said: Ian - what makes you say Spanish Sauternes is now ‘illegal’? (I was never a Sauternes fan but my grandparents used to buy it at Christmas as a seasonal treat.) Mateus Rose was very popular then too. How our wings have spread as the years have gone by! 🍷 Sauternes is a expensive Sweet French wine and is certainly illegal To be made anywhere apart from Bordeaux. There most famous being d'yquem.One of the most sort after wines often costing a small fortune. Back in the sixties many wine names were hijacked often from Spain. Now Spanish wines can more then hold there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said: Sauternes is a expensive Sweet French wine and is certainly illegal To be made anywhere apart from Bordeaux. There most famous being d'yquem.One of the most sort after wines often costing a small fortune. Back in the sixties many wine names were hijacked often from Spain. Now Spanish wines can more then hold there own. I see what you mean now, thank you. It was certainly French Sauternes that graced our table back in the 50/60s, replaced with French Chablis later on. Think my grandparents’ tastes must have changed as they got older, same as a lot of us probably. Sophistication of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The first wine that my family bought was a Sauternes at Christmas about 1958 – I was 13 and remember it being sweet. For the next few years it was Hock which tasted horrible, but is probably quite sweet in comparison with most white wines. We were having a retro Christmas dinner a few years ago and I looked at Sauternes in Sainsbury's and it was £13 for half a bottle. No wonder my dad went for the cheaper option after that first Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Most wines are quite rightly protected. In the same way as Stilton, Parma ham ,Cornish pasties etc.I'm a great believer in supporting local foods and drinks wherever I am.In doing so Hopefully it helps the local economy.Something that is very important now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Taking of local try Norfolk wines very good,far from cheap but occasions like Christmas a real treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The sweetness of Sauternes comes from the "cepage noble" which is the method of leaving the grapes on the vine right through until sometimes early October when they are almost shrivelled. This concentrates the sugar in the grape but is difficult to produce, normally hand picked and so quite expensive. It does keep a lot longer as well. It is a dessert wine to have with your "pudden" at the end of a meal. But not with Christmas pudding, which is too rich. The best thing with that is Asti Spumante, a sweet sparkling wine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Very true there are now a number of very good sweet wines.We still have one we brought in Canada. For me I do have a sweet tooth but I'm not keen on sweet wines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Vaughan said: The sweetness of Sauternes comes from the "cepage noble" which is the method of leaving the grapes on the vine right through until sometimes early October when they are almost shrivelled. This concentrates the sugar in the grape but is difficult to produce, normally hand picked and so quite expensive. It does keep a lot longer as well. It is a dessert wine to have with your "pudden" at the end of a meal. But not with Christmas pudding, which is too rich. The best thing with that is Asti Spumante, a sweet sparkling wine. That sounds like a lot of noble rot to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 It is indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Back in the 60s our family business used to do work for Mayor Sworder, the Wine Merchants. At Christmas my father used to be given a bottle of Port and a bottle of Chateau d'yquem. I can't remember the name of the Port but it was supplied to the Palace of Westminster. The last time I saw a bottle of d'yquem was in Holt and it was £120 for a non vintage year some bottles are many times that price before you start on the rare ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 When I worked for the bank our wines were the very best.This is where I was lucky to taste some of the best wines in the world now and again they would sort out some of the wines.We had very good ports,1947 and 1955,always had my eye on that one the year of my birth.Would have to keep it away from Marina, she would only put lemonade in it.Then I wouldn't be responsible for my actions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Good Lord, I had completely forgotten Port and Lemon! And there was that other drink Snowball made from Advocat, lemonade and a splash of fresh lime juice. There was a pub in Chenies called The Bedford Arms. Back then if you ordered a Bitter Shandy they would put a couple of shakes of Angus Duras Bitters in it, that was nice, very refreshing in summer. That was before I graduated to it in a Plymouth Gin topped up with water. Now I am pretty much TT, funny old life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 To this day Marina still had the odd glass of port and lemon.Funny when we go to some pubs,the young staff dont have a clue how to do a p&l.We've even been abroad and got them to do us a port and lemon.Well remember snow balls.Theres many drinks from the sixties and seventies that have fallen out of fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, ChrisB said: Now I am pretty much TT, funny old life. Me too! Hardly touch a drop these days. Well perhaps just a heart starter in the early coffee, and possibly a little something to wash lunch down, you know how it goes. I find a small libation while I cook the evening meal is a treat I give myself and of course something while I relax and watch TV. I do tend to have a tiny weeny nightcap just to help with the sleep last thing but as you say, Damned near Tea Total myself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The 'best' French vintages, the Premier Grand Crus are now mostly bought up even before the vendage ( the grape harvest) by rich investors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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