ExSurveyor Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Having spent most my working day out of office since 1978 I had a detailed knowledge of most public loos in Kent. They were without exception dirty smelly disgusting hovels. The number declined over the years to be replaced with petrol stations, garden centres, supermarket and pub loos. As I totter towards my pension date I am more than grateful for the modern alternative. I guess they need to shut some to centralise others but suspect they will just close many without thought. Libraries and loos have never been high on most councils priority list of whatever colour they may be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Wussername said: I thought that the Womack Staithe toilets were funded by the Trust that owns, manages, the staithe. Perhaps I am wrong. I know the income from the staithe is fairly significant but there are relatively few outgoings taken from it, so I suspect they're still run by NNDC. I just hope Hickling is a case where they're planning transfer. That one seems logical, given that NWT bought the car park. It really needs something there for hours when the pub's closed. Further afield, Walsingham seems like a ridiculously bad decision. It's right on the high street and the place is heaving with older members of the population, lots of people who've trekked miles on pilgrimages and nuns. Hopefully it's another transfer and the Walsingham Estate take it on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Wherever I plan to go out these days I make sure I have nothing to drink for an hour and a half and turn myself inside out before I leave the house. Sad state of affairs all round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 15 minutes ago, dom said: I know the income from the staithe is fairly significant but there are relatively few outgoings taken from it, so" I suspect they're still run by NNDC.". You may be correct, however, you suspect. Are you able to define further? The income from the staithe is I suspect very small. . What influence by NNDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikertov Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, ExSurveyor said: "Without getting political" But, Come on we all know the guidelines 😁 It is a very difficult line to tread for the mod team. I thought I had made a general anti-all comment without reference to a specific party or political leaning So apologies if I overstepped the mark, Mark - There was certainly no intention of making the Mods job any harder than it already is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSurveyor Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 No worries, I find that an early gentle nudge is more effective than a loud moan later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Wussername said: The income from the staithe is I suspect very small. Last financial year, income for Womack Staithe was just shy of £23k. The only upkeep outgoing was £1500 in maintenance charges, which I would imagine is probably relating to grass cutting and water supply (staithe repairs are broken out as a separate line, but were £0 in that year). It's evident from the original article that maintenance costs for a toilet block are more like £10k, so presumably someone else is funding the one at Womack. Most of the revenue from the staithe actually goes to Ludham village for things like grass and hedge cutting, as well as grants to things like the Methodist Church, school and bowls club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham47 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 8 hours ago, CeePee1952 said: I'm surprised that they haven't included the one in Loddon! Oh wait a minute - that one most probably doesn't get used as much as the others so fits neatly into their criteria!! (I am being sarcastic here by the way! The Toilets at Loddon are now ‘ Pay as you go ‘ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargeandParge Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 hours ago, Graham47 said: The Toilets at Loddon are now ‘ Pay as you go ‘ I hope they are pay before you go as a metering system would complicate things . Kindest Regards Marge and Parge 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I was very grateful that there were public toilets at Potter Heigham and Acle last week. Mind you, the Potter ones are a bit hidden away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee1952 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Slight drift (as always!), there are about 6 free council run public loo sites in Rugby, They all open at 0800 and close at 1800. They used to be open 24 hrs but due to various "inappropriate" activities including drug abuse, the council decided to close them overnight. Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Being in the construction industry I sense some 'renovation projects' in the air....... Every cloud and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnoar Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, maynard said: Being in the construction industry I sense some 'renovation projects'…. Add to the auction house listings of disused former Victorian school, chapel, nuclear bunker, airfield control tower, pump house, mill, water tower, telephone exchange, boatyard etc. prime for conversion to residence. Jesting aside Broadland and north Norfolk is mainly a tourist based economy. Hardly the type of facility to cut back on, time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, Turnoar said: Add to the auction house listings of disused former Victorian school, chapel, nuclear bunker, airfield control tower, pump house, mill, water tower, telephone exchange, boatyard etc. prime for conversion to residence. Jesting aside Broadland and north Norfolk is mainly a tourist based economy. Hardly the type of facility to cut back on, time will tell. Happily there is a clean one for tourists in Hoveton although Roys is the preferred choice for locals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewcook Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I agree with the Exsurveyor about politics that has No place on this Forum and only concentrates on the Norfolk and Suffolk Broads issues such as Boat safety as one person Died at Great Yarmouth Yacht station that was announced by Broads Authority 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 On 10/09/2024 at 23:13, dom said: Last financial year, income for Womack Staithe was just shy of £23k. Would that include income from the private moorings further along the Staithe or is it just from casual moorers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, webntweb said: Would that include income from the private moorings further along the Staithe or is it just from casual moorers? I was going to question Doms figures. But they make sence when you incude the revenue from the "parishioners moorings". Indeed within that complex beyond the hire fleet moorings and the parishioners moorings lies other moorings adjacent to the shops. None of my business of course. Are they part of Womack parish? However I would say Womack Staithe is one of my go to places, by boat, by road. Summer and winter. We visit many times throughout the year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Parishioners likely have a very good deal or exempt by being parishioners, it is a parish staithe after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 15 minutes ago, Smoggy said: Parishioners likely have a very good deal or exempt by being parishioners, it is a parish staithe after all. I do not think that the parishioners are exempt at all. However there is a waiting list as they enjoy preferential terms. But for those of the parish only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, Wussername said: I was going to question Doms figures. But they make sence when you incude the revenue from the "parishioners moorings". Indeed within that complex beyond the hire fleet moorings and the parishioners moorings lies other moorings adjacent to the shops. None of my business of course. Are they part of Womack parish? My figures did indeed include parish moorings, which are fairly cheaply priced. Last year, £12.5k income came from the public moorings, £8.2k from the parish. The moorings directly in front of the shop aren't parish, but included in the shop lease I believe. The ones further back, I do know who they belong to, but can't think offhand at the moment whether they're also tied in with the shop or someone else. I have a nagging feeling it's someone well known from the boatyard industry owns them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Didn't they renew part of the quay heading not so long ago - that would have been very expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, marshman said: Didn't they renew part of the quay heading not so long ago - that would have been very expensive! They just capped the top as high water levels prevented more extensive work. I am given to understand that other repairs are planned in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Perhaps i am going back a bit further but didn't they find some old wherry remains? Indeed i should think there are old wherries under most staithes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 52 minutes ago, marshman said: Didn't they renew part of the quay heading not so long ago - that would have been very expensive! They spent £13.5k on repairs in the 22/23 financial year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The repairs to the quay heading are just temporary , the scheduled renewal of said quay heading had to be postponed due to the water levels but it was in such a state that they had to do something . I believe the figure for the proposed work is around the £70k mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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