JawsOrca Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi All.. At present we don't have means of MOB recovery systems. I'm not quite sure why it was missed but it was.. I'm just wondering though how useful either would be on the broads (Remembering we are based on the southern broads), where the current and winds are an issue .. Would such thing just pointlessly blow away? I remember that both are intended to be used in an area where the boat should make a turn around the MOB as so the person can grab but thats clearly not going to happen. Any thoughts? http://marinestore.co.uk/CS1320-SLING.html- MOB Sling or http://www.force4.co.uk/department/safety/man-overboard/lifebuoys-rescue-slings/force-4-horseshoe-lifebuoy-yellow.html?? To be honest I don't really want one as I want to be able to grab one and not hestiate thinking which one to grab? (I'm aiming towards the MOB sling?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Alan, It has been discussed here that there are 2 issues. First if the mob has a life jacket on you don't need a ring or horse shoe buoy. If not then you need to get a floaty thing to them. Next is how get them back on board. Depending on your freeboard, etc there are some options but they come at a price and may need some mods to your boat. This seems to be the most difficult part. I doubt any of us would find the recovery East. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hi Alan, Which ever you go for (we have the horse shoe type, one mounted on each side) make sure that you get it with floating line, that way the MOB can grab for the line. Regards Alan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I've used a couple of MOB recovery devices 'in necessity' so to speak. By far the most effective system was the horseshoe with a line attached. It was compact enough for me to easily aim and throw it towards the MOB. I found I could steer it towards the MOB. When the MOB saw the 'big floaty thing' coming towards them they started to relax the panic a little. I was able to easily guide the MOB through the water to where I wanted them to be, to effect an easy rescue. As baitrunner has pointed out, I now need to invest in some strong and long boarding ladders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Have you considered a 'throwing line' like this ? http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Throw-Rope-Bags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Poppy makes a good suggestion here. I bought one this year after some other posts on the forum. Must actually check it isnt too well packed to deploy first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyPatricia Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 We have a throwing line Alan but both Deb and I ALWAYS wear our life jackets while cruising (with crotch straps done up) as you know. I think I'd be inclined to go with the horseshoe type if we were to invest in another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 We have a throwing line Alan but both Deb and I ALWAYS wear our life jackets while cruising (with crotch straps done up) as you know. I think I'd be inclined to go with the horseshoe type if we were to invest in another. I think that life jackets should be mandatory on certain parts of the Broads. Reedham, Breydon,Great Yarmouth for example. Basically where tide and wind at certain times of the year together with water temperature can be a challenging mix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Whilst I would always recommend the wearing of LJs, I would draw the line at making it mandatory. where ever you were. Recommend, coerce, bribe or even threaten the person with Iain's singing... , fine, but leave the law out of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 All, I will be ordered a horseshoe buoy today .. just need to find a home for it as we don't have a pushpit rail.. hmm... I'll make sure it has a floating line too.. I seem to remember that we have a throw line somewhere already although it's probably not on the boat! When we had the sailing boat I did make the wearing of jackets mandatory whilst the boat was in motion/mooring up and the crew never argued. I must admit on this boat the crew refuse to.. although I don't wear mine either so can't really demand! I totally agree though they should be worn. I will be enforcing the law that whilst on Breydon and mooring around Yarmouth and Reedham (if we ever moor there) they will be worn though.. and I need to be stricter if it's raining and Icy (wish me luck). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Whilst I would always recommend the wearing of LJs, I would draw the line at making it mandatory. where ever you were. Recommend, coerce, bribe or even threaten the person with Iain's singing... , fine, but leave the law out of it Oye MM i'll let you know I perfomed The Messiah at the ripe old age of 19 and arf! So there Without doubt, the most difficult piece of music I ever tackled. Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I should have added, that, the only notes I can hold these days are £5, £10 and £20 ones! Iain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayandCarole Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 And very tightly I guess Iain Ray & Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 And very tightly I guess Iain Ray & Carole Ray, Not at all, I am very free flowing in letting them go, the trick is, finding the combination to my wife's purse! I can make a £5 note last a whole minute in certain Theatre Bars in the London's West End! Iain. Iain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I can make a £5 note last a whole minute in certain Theatre Bars in the London's West End! I'm amazed that you found a London West End Venue that had anything priced or even recognised cash under £20 as legal tender! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I'm amazed that you found a London West End Venue that had anything priced or even recognised cash under £20 as legal tender! Hi Tim, Agreed, so was I !!! A Small bottle of Britvic Juice an eye watering £4.60p. You are 110% correct though, always went to the bar with a £20 note, to order interval dwinkies! Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Alan, I am thinking of getting a horseshoe buoy as well - let me know how much you pay if you get one? I know Brian Wards do them (think they were about £46) and they will put your boat name on them as well (although that may be extra). Forum discount though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hi Mark, I'll probably go for this one.. http://www.force4.co.uk/department/safety/man-overboard/lifebuoys-rescue-slings/force-4-horseshoe-lifebuoy-yellow.html#.VXrFo9LBzRY£22.95 + £5 postage. I don't need the name printed on it will probably have to hide behind the door or something. Although I like to shop local to either Norfolk or here, if the price is a long way off then I'd rather save and use the bit saved on a pint or two of wherry... (Jonzo we need to get Woodfordes as a sponsor!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 With you on that Alan. Half price on-line is a big saving. I have crayons if I want to personalise it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Just checked and BW's are £33 - £30 with discount. Compared to £27 at Force 4 with the postage - OK so you have to visit Brundall to collect it, but it is a closer price (you never know they might knock another couple quid off). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sadly for us Mark, Brundall is miles out of the way and we've only made our way over there a couple of times, I could get my folks to collect stuff for me (but its a bit of hassle). We have Jeckles closer at Oulton Broad which aren't too bad. I do like BW though and do use them where I can and needless to say the service with them is amazing and worth the extra couple of quid alone, but my chandlers here in medway do price match against F4 so try your luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Undo your new floaty line and hank it yourself. Ours wouldn't unravel fast enough to be useful because so well commercially coiled, it will do so now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Because we wear LJ most of the time, I got an extra floaty line with the aim of putting a carabiner on the end to clip on to the recovery loop on the harness. The other end is having its own block and jammer that can be snap shackled on and then used to aid recovery; in fact the MOB should be able to pull on it to help counteract ladder curve under the hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRolaves Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Its a good idea to have two methods of recovery for a person in the water. A life ring with a length of floating line should be carried on the boat for use in emergencies. Also consider a rope strop with a large eye spliced into one end so that a person in the water can put it over his head and then under his armpits. The total length of the strop needs to be about ten feet long so that persons on the boat can pull the person in the water to a suitable place where he can be lifted or pulled onto the boat or just held in position whilst the boat makes for the bank. Dave R........... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 If you need to find which of the two options is preferable, you need to remember it is the casualty who ultimately needs the device. My best recommendation is to kick somebody into the river and ask them which one they want. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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