marshman

Why would anyone want to listen to me - but I actually have a view! Step onto a Siesta or an Ensign and they move about like large day boat! Which of course they would as that really is what they are - with the greatest of respect! The Hampton Safari group, and the Calypso, carry a wider beam and with I suspect a heavier lay up, will behave very differently - I know where my preference would lay!

There must still be hundreds of those shaver points still on boats on the Broads and many even without the isolation switch. Food for thought?? If they are a potential danger, I wonder why they are not included in the BSS??

Must admit I was unaware that they had closed the navigation- it was only recently that they cut the weed back in the channel!

They can indeed be replaced but only if the insurance pay up! When I had an electrical fire, they refused to on the basis that the cables were old and the system had not been checked regularly - who gets their whole electrical system checked by anyone throughout the boat on a regular basis? Where do you start? Old Gregg however makes the most valid point about turning the electrics off on a vacant boat, apart from the bilge pump. Mine just happened to start when I was moored up in the marina and I was aboard and alerted by the smouldering - turning the power off stopped further damage but it was touch and go. Flames had already started, albeit small but as soon as I turned the power off,they died down. So learn to shut down completely, and that includes your seacocks too, and do it every time you leave your boat unattended - just make it a habit! However the claim was turned down for the reasons stated above and that was one of the leading boat insurers, so I am keeping my fingers crossed for the owners!!!!!

Mebbe!

See - ask a man who knows like Tom and you will get the answer rather than just guessing!!! Always the wrong thing to do - do not guess just ask someone who knows!! Thanks Tom - jobs a good 'un!!!

Well - ring him up and ask!!!!!

Why ask the Forum? Talk to the Rivers Engineer at the BA - he is a very nice guy honestly!!!! He will give you the answer off the top of his head, so to speak

That was probably the EA who cut the river banks to check condition of the flood defences on an annual basis - usually seen on the slopey bits with a big machine.

Darude "Sandstorm"!!!! You have real taste for a Northerner, Griff!!! Excellent tune to strut your stuff to!!!!!!

Equally, I see far more all male parties behaving perfectly normally!! Is there a way to tell ,in advance how they will behave? At the same time why confine that comment to male parties? In the day, and I agree it was a some time ago, it was often felt by the yard, that the all girl boats were even worse!! I have also seen mixed groups behaving inappropriately, of all ages!

Never get that hassle mudweighting!!!! Oh well leave the noise ashore and the peace to those swinging on a piece of rope!!!!

Ooops - I should have added "allegedly"

And that about sums it up - not quite what Vaughan, with respect, would imply by calling it "famous and important"!!! It might have been perhaps 100 years or so ago but its been a dump for as long as I can remember, firstly when it was run by Mr Hollocks Sr and now his successor. No one should flout planning legislation which most of us abide by, and the the old man was a thorn in the flesh years ago with illegally parked vans, and know his successor too!

Not as easy as cars I believe! They will all belong to someone whose responsibility they remain, and the BA will need, probably to go through the courts. Technically, I do not think they can even lift them and move them to their yard. And the bigger they are, the harder it all becomes

I believe it was prepared and presented by someone at the UEA - he stressed at the time he was NOT a lawyer. He and his team spent quite some years putting it together and if I recall his name may have been Prof Tom Williamson - but my memory could have failed me - again!!! It was indeed commissioned by the BA, and indeed perhaps edited, but I doubt the substance was changed. All the information used to collate it, was in the public domain. It was just a study and is by no means authoritative but it was certainly of value

Aweigh is indeed a useful app, but in my limited experience, its tidal information is based on assumptions that do not always apply to the tides on the Broads. More often on the Broads we see 5 hrs of flow and 7 of ebb and most certainly, the one twelths rule in sequencing the rise and fall over a 12 hour period is way way off. Tides out at sea might perform like that but not Broadland tides - as if anyone really cared!!!!!

If its steel piling then that is probably your answer in a nutshell - that's VERY expensive to renew and is probably part of the flood defences. Is their another flood bank further back there - I cannot remember but am inclined to think not??

Its not the Broads per se but post pandemic - its not just the Broads that have changed ,but the whole holidaying issue - the early eating isn't just a Broads thing but even in Norwich that is now commonplace. I thought London Rascals post hit the nail on the head. The Broads were already becoming a second holiday spot and short break orientated, and that market will be struggling. I note the comment about Ferry too, but they do have over 40 boats these days and they may of course, have a booking later in the week. Markets change all the time and firms have to adapt to survive - and they probably will cope as they have in the past.

ALL public bodies ,sadly, are hard to deal with, not just the BA. Its the way the world is these days, I am afraid. Or is it because we are getting older.....!

I would suggest you blame the landowners as well if its true, not just the BA. The BA cannot make landowners lease these moorings - who probably want the moorings to turn them over to private moorings to boat owners who rarely use their boats.! As a public (!) body the BA can only pay, I suspect, for leases what some other public body advises. Landowners now see these moorings as a valuable source of revenue - Langley Dyke is a classic example where the whole dyke is turned over often to almost all smaller boats. It wasn't that long ago that you could moor anywhere on the east side of the dyke for the full length - paying higher rent would only increase the pressure on the next renewals as landowners can ask for more, and more! Its an unhealthy attitude but its been going on for a longtime, and especially by those who don't really need the revenue but who are motivated by profit, profit and yet more profit for what is just marshland otherwise.

Yes to Woods End Staithe but room for one boat only! Anywhere outside the posts on Barton is ok - they make it obvious generally where you cannot go. Generally the main part of the Broad is ok even up to the reeds apart from the shallow area on the east side half way up marked with green buoys. The only area I would be wary of is right down the S/W bit towards the Neatishead arm but before you get to Gays Staithe - outside of the posts it is getting weedier. Blackhorse - at the moment it is generally ok but last year later on the weed growth was pretty heavy in spots so just keep your eye on it. Its not the green strandy stuff but stringier and builds up, and more like matt weed - similar to Wroxham towards the bottom end and also right up the top. Enjoy mudweighting - its still the best!!!!!!

Mr Cator IS Ranworth, like it or not! He owns quite a lot of it, he owns the land surrounding it and the Broad and he is one of those people, like the BA , who will be listened to.

Strange reading this thread tonight - as another one joins the boat owning clan, I have made the sad decision to leave it! Had a boat of one sort or another myself, for the best part of 60 years and remembering my Dads boats before me, and you can add another 15 years onto the previous figure, that there has always been one around. Today decided to sell up as its all become too much. One part is very very sad, the other relieved that I will, I hope ,no longer have the worry of what needs doing, and having to do it. I reckon I have learnt a bit about the rivers, and the sea, in those years and until now, thought I would downsize when the time came, but no! I have been so lucky and have a million treasured memories but think now its time to sling me hook, as they say and now just sit on my a**e for a bit!!!

Shouldn't worry about it - just enjoy the spectacle! The busiest spot by far is Horning Reach - until about Sat midday so just avoid it!! By its very nature the boats tend to get strung out quite quickly, especially in a breeze which there should be, and some go one way and others a totally different course - you can go round the various buoys, 4 of them quite long distances between, which ever way you want. If you want to see what's going on in a quieter stretch, then moor up down S Walsham Dyke and watch some go past! Don't worry the people sailing don't want to damage their pride and joy either! Certainly not a reason to even considering cancelling! Loads of places to go where you may see very little!