MauriceMynah Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 No, the "Speakers Corner" is in full open forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 16 hours ago, grendel said: did you not notice the smiley, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Vaughan said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevem Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 13/01/2020 at 20:00, Paladin said: A question in the Glover Review was: Is the governance structure of the National Parks fit for the future? The BA’s response:...the boundaries of the Broads National Park should be reviewed to include whole parishes... This was met with considerable resistance from parish and district councils alike. So, softly, softly, first step, put up signs in the acquiescent parish council areas, to give the impression to all and sundry that such a parish is now within the Broads executive area. Leave it like that for a while, until everyone (including the parish, district and county councillors) are brainwashed into believing it to be the status quo, then suggest to Glover/Defra/whoever that it has been universally accepted that those areas ARE de facto within the BA’s control, so let’s make it official. Fantasy? Just remember, you read it first here. This needs more recognition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bytheriver Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 13 hours ago, Stevem said: This needs more recognition The Glover Report also has a suggested re-wording of the Sandford Principal to take in navigation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Is this the prettiest amendment yet? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, JennyMorgan said: Is this the prettiest amendment yet? He'll never get a job hanging wallpaper. Just look at that seam! Duck tape - priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D46 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Paladin said: He'll never get a job hanging wallpaper. Just look at that seam! Duck tape - priceless! Exactly everyone should have all their ducks in a row 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Paladin said: Duck tape - priceless! Absolutely quackers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatingman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 There are signs in Suffolk I have just driven from Beccles to Bungay and a sign is now fitted under the Bungay Town sign Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Another has appeared at Clippesby (Fleggburgh) on the A1064 from Acle, just before the turning to P/Heigham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Re the BNP. a very good read here: http://www.richardbacon.org.uk/archive_speeches/broads_bill.htm?fbclid=IwAR0E4YTOl2hv963nlDvSXax2IsXyIY0NP94Oa0TPX3k4YLX3f4yjvxixOmM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: Re the BNP. a very good read here: http://www.richardbacon.org.uk/archive_speeches/broads_bill.htm?fbclid=IwAR0E4YTOl2hv963nlDvSXax2IsXyIY0NP94Oa0TPX3k4YLX3f4yjvxixOmM Having just re-read the above, again, I was drawn to the last paragraph, prophetic or what? "I fear that the authority’s approach has not enabled the House to give it the warm cross-party endorsement that it might otherwise have had, and serious concerns among our constituents remain. That said, there will be further opportunities in the other place. As the hon. Member for North Norfolk said, the ultimate test will be the behaviour of the authority in interpreting and using its powers in the years ahead. If the fears of the navigators prove justified, we will know soon enough, and we will have the opportunity to do something about it in due course." The sentence that I have highlighted in red was apt back then and remains wholly apt right now. In my opinion I think it reasonable to suggest that the Executive has failed on a number of counts, all relating to the BNP obsession, and culminating with the Acle Debacle and these road signs in particular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Paladin said: Another has appeared at Clippesby (Fleggburgh) on the A1064 from Acle, just before the turning to P/Heigham. Apparently the metal of which they are made is unsuitable for recycling . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: If the fears of the navigators prove justified, we will know soon enough, and we will have the opportunity to do something about it in due course." When was that ??? "This speech was given in the House of Commons on 7 May 2008 in the debate on the Third Reading of the Broads Authority Bill." Ahh yes, 3 months short of 12 years ago. "Soon enough" eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 And there is me still navigating the same waters without fear - although to be fair I do wear a lifejacket more often these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 How many of these signs do they intend to put up? And where? Does anybody know? Does the BA intend to put them up elsewhere perhaps. On the riverside? Eh Oop! You're here. Int National Park.....by gum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I don't know if this route has been explored, but the BA are allowed to use the term "Broads National Park" for marketing. Are official road signs allowed to carry marketing signs ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lulu Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 How much are all these signs costing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D46 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: I don't know if this route has been explored, but the BA are allowed to use the term "Broads National Park" for marketing. Are official road signs allowed to carry marketing signs ? Very good point , not sure if I'm right here but I would imagine there are strict rules regarding too much information in one place as it removes the required level of concentration on the road ahead for a longer period , incidentally that's exactly why some motorway signs have upper and lower case letters as it reduces thinking time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, MauriceMynah said: When was that ??? "This speech was given in the House of Commons on 7 May 2008 in the debate on the Third Reading of the Broads Authority Bill." Ahh yes, 3 months short of 12 years ago. "Soon enough" eh? I think the penny dropped, 11 years and 9 months ago, eh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: I don't know if this route has been explored, but the BA are allowed to use the term "Broads National Park" for marketing. Are official road signs allowed to carry marketing signs ? No doubt that that question, and JP's interpretation of it, is at the very root of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: I don't know if this route has been explored, but the BA are allowed to use the term "Broads National Park" for marketing. Are official road signs allowed to carry marketing signs ? Tell me? What exactly is the BA marketing? The attributes of a National Park? Or their understanding that the Broads is a National Park. And why? Nearly forgot the last bit . Advertising on a road sign, in Norfolk. Why. They are here. They presumably know that. They know why they have come and why. Advertise in Leeds, North Allerton. That's where you need to do your marketing (let us know how you get on) Old Wussername) 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Lulu said: How much are all these signs costing? Twenty something thousand plus the cost of replacing ones damaged by staff removing unauthorised stickers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Wussername said: How many of these signs do they intend to put up? And where? Does anybody know? 28 minutes ago, Lulu said: How much are all these signs costing? I understand that 35 signs have been purchased. The cost has been £31,640.23 (incl. vat) (JM - I did give a figure of £26,366.86 a while ago, but that was ex-vat.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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