ChrisB Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think a serious proposal to open the waters above the ancient bridge to all vessels could provoke a very unwelcome response from the RSPB, Natural England, NWT, and the National Trust. Best to buy, build and hire boats that can pass under. Just my opinion you understand as the afore-mentioned are over a million strong and have many £millions to fight battles with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Martham already have a grp hulled boat - the new day boats are plastic hulls with a wooded superstructure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Martham already have a grp hulled boat - the new day boats are plastic hulls with a wooded superstructure. Hopefully that means that they have made the mistake already then and will stick with timber from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 And so are their half-deckers. And many (most?) of the fleet bought from NYBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think it will be a sad day if Marthams move towards plastic boats.. I love the business model (and hastern to add that we did hire with them several times before being stupid and getting our own boat) and it's always nice to see their wooden boats on the river.. Alan I agree with you and would be very sad to see any of the Martham woodies taken out of service. But if they decide to add new boats to the fleet I can't see how they would be able to afford to construct a woodie from scratch, so a GRP hulled Judith (or Juliette or SJ) with a wooden superstructure strikes me as a good, workable compromise with at least a chance of being financially viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Alan I agree with you and would be very sad to see any of the Martham woodies taken out of service. But if they decide to add new boats to the fleet I can't see how they would be able to afford to construct a woodie from scratch, so a GRP hulled Judith (or Juliette or SJ) with a wooden superstructure strikes me as a good, workable compromise with at least a chance of being financially viable. No of course, it's just a tad sad that the old skills would go.. I think the yards like marthams who keep woodern boats on hire should be given a whole lot of support and respect as they really do keep the past alive.. I completely agree it would interesting to see new fibreglass replicates (with wooden tops at least as you say) Unfortunately I'm not one to comment too much as we no longer hire from them but still the best memories we have of the broads is aboard "Janet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDH Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Silverline have Silver Serenity new for 2015 also Brooms have changed the name of their boat Cadet Coupe to Skipper according to the new Hoseasons brochure. Regards David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatmadmike Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 david brooms skipper is a brand new boat for 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I was chatting to one of the owners of Martham a few years ago and he told me they were thinking about taking a mould of a Judith hull. It doesn't seem to have happened, but it seemed a fantastic idea to me. I like that damned bridge just as it is. Leave it alone!! If it`s that important, why not have it taken apart and re0assembled over a drainage dyke somewhere, to the exact same size and spec?. It would be cheaper to do that than to raise it. As for the comment about designing, building, and hiring boats that have been specifically designed for the purpose of going under it, correct me if i`m wrong, but is`nt that what companies such as Alpha, Bounty, Aston, Broom, J E Fletcher, Newsons, Marthams, and Richardsons etc etc etc have been and in some case still are doing?. I seem to remember reading a post some years ago saying 40-50 years ago, Potter Heigham old road bridge had an AVERAGE clearance of well over 7ft, so the likes of many of the companies i mention above have already built hundreds of boats capable of doing so, the only problem being the subsoil the bridge is built on, and its very design and structural requirements . We have to remember the bridge was built hundreds of years ago, long before the boats and river traffic, not to mention road traffic of today, and was designed to cater for wherries pulled or pushed under and horses and carts driven over. I`m all for conservation, but sometimes conservation HAS to give way for modern day requirements. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springsong Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I was speaking to Patrick Curtiss a few weeks ago about the very subject of building a new MC. He would love to build a plastic hulled boat and has actually got a Juliette earmarked for taking a mould, but at present the cost is prohibitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
650xs Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 blow all the bridge upp .........................................kaboooom...................!!!!!! simple.................................. just for fun ................................. put i a simple lock .make it charge .....................................big boot go through it and small one under the bridge money return ..................for cost of new cut ....................simple money go to up keep running orf lock robin and patrick still run it simple a simple gate lock ..........new cut i say ................. passge cost 4/6 squid .............................cheap for passage ..................... improve acces to hickling and buisness up thar ..................... only cost about 4.8 million ......................... most of cost on consultation and 150 staff to sit on **** to look and analize it all ...................... i.ll get me coat ................................ make is an eu law to have all boat lifted over the bridges ......that sound about rite ....!!!!!!! our new boats are on way at last ....................................opp sbit orf rant and ort topic ..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersjoy Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Personally, i`d like to see Marthams build a new cruiser (or more?) using a GRP hull and timber superstructure. I love the look of that. Fell in love with this one a few years ago when it was up for sale. Now, if they built some more , or she came up for sale again! http://www.broads.org.uk/wiki/index.php5?title=Boat_Details&BoatId=1441&BoatHistory=22414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 she is a sheerline hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersjoy Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 she is a sheerline hull. Built by Wroxham Marine i belive, correct me if i'm wrong please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Sorry for the delay but I was researching so that I could correct you..! She was built by a fellow named Chris Edmunds in the Martham Developments shed.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 talking of new boats i love the looks etc of the new boats from Richardsons and got a good look of a Carousel while moored at Wroxham free moorings and was impressed with the ease of the canopy operation the only thing i was dissapointed with was the number of scuffs and black marks along the length of the hull the boats look great in all pure white when new but might be time for a bit of colour adding up to the rubbing strip do you think Clive or do the boats clean easily if she had had a bad week with the hirers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 They bulk buy Brilliant White Vynil Silk....simples Iain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 they are well used but clean up well over the winter, most of the black marks usually come off easily on the change round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Fell in love with this one a few years ago when it was up for sale. Now, if they built some more , or she came up for sale again! http://www.broads.org.uk/wiki/index.php5?title=Boat_Details&BoatId=1441&BoatHistory=22414 This is her This just goes to prove that there are still skilled craftsmen on the broads who could build stunning boats like this. I often wonder how hard it would be to build a boat like this, but using a modern grp hull, any chance of seeing some based on a Broadsman hull Clive?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not sure the hull would lend itself to this type of build but could be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersjoy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is the Mould still about that it was built on as it is GRP. That would be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 If the hull moulds are still around, i think the Aquafibre Diamond 35 and 43 would be a good choice. Imagine "Thunder" and "Lightning" having bright varnished cabin sides, also the old Lowliner 38 and 44s, or am i just drifting off into fantasy land?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I remember back in the 70s there were a few hire boats around that were timber tops on well known grp hulls. I seem to remember a wooden topped Hampton 25, several wooden topped Elysian 27 being fwd dv, ctr, and aft ckp, not forgetting the wooden topped DC30s, one of which i hired many times. Also in Maffett cruisers fleet was a one of the few Freeman 30s with a wooden top. Then of course there were hundreds of timber tops on the Bourne 30, 35, and 40 hulls. God, how i wish i`d hired more of these in my younger days. See how you lot have got me going all religeous now?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baitrunner Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 That is a very nice looking boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I know where the hull mould for the Ocean 30 is if anyone wants to commission a build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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