trambo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Sanderson's yard in the 80s from a scanned photograph. At least two of the Sandpipers are in origornal condition (the two on the left) with the others in their various remodernised conditions. A Sanderling can also be seen. On a historic note Sandersons are the last boatyard to fly the Blakes flag. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetChugger Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 On the "Site that must not be named" (not Richards), under the thread "some more old photos", there is a lovely picture of Thorpe and, I think, Hearts Cruisers. One for Vaughan to maybe take a peek at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 A clutch of old Summercraft boats circa 1970's Glitter Girl's 1 & 2 with Galaxy Girl in the middle, spent a lovely week on Glitter Girl 2 - glad to see they are still in business :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Page from 1963 Hoseseasons showing some of the houseboats moored on Oulton Broad. 3 are listed as ex Torpedo boats and one as ex Gun boat but they are all different lengths and beams. Perhaps somebody (Vaughan?) could enlighten me as to if the descriptions are correct. The houseboat at the top of the page looks like one of the flat-afloats but I didn't think they were called that until quite a few years later. There is one listed at Wayford Bridge and one at Brundall. Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The top one is a Windboats Flat-a-Float. They were based around a caravan body on a flat pontoon, in those days when holiday houseboats were very popular on the Broads. Some versions were built with a front lowering ramp, so that the caravan could be rolled off the raft and used on the road. "Young Jim" is a British Powerboat Co. 60ft pre-war fast patrol craft and MTB design. This one was commanded by my father, in Hong Kong. She is more likely to have been this RAF rescue launch version of the same hull, as both flotillas of the MTB version were lost in action during the war. "Gray Malkin" is a mystery as she appears at first to be a Fairmile "D" MTB but at 72ft is too short and is missing the "scollop" out of the hullside for the torpedo tubes. May have been some kind of landing craft or harbour defense launch. "Foynes" is the 73ft Vosper MTB, built during the mid years of the war. Later made famous in the late 60s as an Airfix plastic model kit. MTB102, now in preservation, is an earlier, and smaller, version. "Blue Lagoon" is clearly a British Powerboat Co. design such as MGB 81, which was a 72ft MGB. She is shown in the catalogue as 60ft, so she is probably an RAF rescue launch version of the same design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thank you for the extremely succinct answers Vaughan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Grey Malkin is possibly a 69ft Higgins MGB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Ricko said: Grey Malkin is possibly a 69ft Higgins MGB. Yes indeed! Hubert Scott-Paine of the British Powerboat Company took his designs to America and these were used by ELCO and Higgins. Higgins MTBs were used in the Battle of the Narrow Seas. I will have a look for some photos tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 not many pics on the internet.. obviously sitting higher in the water without engines and guns etc, must have been unusual over here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 That certainly looks very much like the hull shape of Grey Malkin. Higgins boats were well known off the East Coast during the war and had some famous commanders. I notice in your photo, the American method of dropping the torpedos over the side, instead of launching them from tubes. I will look up some more details tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegalSafari Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 11 January 2016 at 18:12, JanetAnne said: Just to bump this thread up again, although we are all enjoying Griff's memoires as well of course, here's possibly the only colour picture in existance of this little cruiser. She was I believe, sadly broken up in about 1971. This picture is from 1963. Anyone care to guess her name and the location (with reg number suitably disguised of course )? Hi Anne, This is lovely boat I think it maybe currently for sale with topsail. It's been on there website a long while I love look of wood very classy https://www.topsail.co.uk/boat.php?refnum=1741 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 "Foynes" was a second series Vosper 72.5 ft MTB, like this one, seen in Malta. These are 72 ft British Powerboat MGBs, so "Blue Lagoon" at 60ft, may have been an anti submarine boat (MA/SB). There seem to have been several versions of the Higgins boats but I think "Gray Malkin" may have been one of these. The photos are from "The battle of the torpedo boats" by Bryan Cooper. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think some "Whaleback' type 2 HSLs were designated MASB but they were 63' I might be wrong but I think they have the length wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdnamsGirl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This is quite timely as I have come across another Broads MTB which is new to me. I bought myself a copy of the 1951 Hoseasons brochure which, among it's houseboats, lists "Otter" which it says was the Fairmile D MTB 729. Going back through the notes I have on ex admiralty boats on the Broads, this doesn't appear to be one which has cropped up on my radar so far. It was listed as being at Oulton Broad and a quick Google infers that she was built by Brooke Marine c1942 and was sold by the admiralty in 1947. It doesn't correspond with the numbers of the two Fairmile D's which were owned by the Sea Scouts at Norwich, (MTB's 724 and 740) or the one which I have photographs at at Horning in the early 1950s (MTB 653). Does anyone have any information or thoughts on Otter? Carol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I can't give you any dates, Carol, but I remember her being on the Broad, painted white. I might have an aerial view with her in it, I'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Carol, is she one of the two, bottom left? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The left one is a Fairmile "D" and the windows look the same. The one at right is slightly smaller and narrower and appears to have a funnel, so I would think that is a Fairmile "B" ML. They had a funnel so that they looked like destroyers at night. I remember another D Fairmile called Longmynd, which moored around the Brundall area but I don't think she was ever a hire boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwombat96 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 In the early 70s, my family had a holiday aboard young jim and as a kid in love with the navy i had a blast. Can anyone tell me the fate of young jim please, as shortly after the holiday I moved to Australia and have not been able to visit the broads again yet! Regards Antony from Australia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 08:44, welshwombat96 said: In the early 70s, my family had a holiday aboard young jim and as a kid in love with the navy i had a blast. Can anyone tell me the fate of young jim please, as shortly after the holiday I moved to Australia and have not been able to visit the broads again yet! Regards Antony from Australia I believe that I am right when I tell you that she was intentionally burnt to the water-line and what was left was allowed to sink where, over the years, her remains have rotted away or sunk into the mud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 08:44, welshwombat96 said: In the early 70s, my family had a holiday aboard young jim and as a kid in love with the navy i had a blast. Can anyone tell me the fate of young jim please, as shortly after the holiday I moved to Australia and have not been able to visit the broads again yet! Regards Antony from Australia Young Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobster Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 28/10/2020 at 08:44, welshwombat96 said: In the early 70s, my family had a holiday aboard young jim and as a kid in love with the navy i had a blast. Can anyone tell me the fate of young jim please, as shortly after the holiday I moved to Australia and have not been able to visit the broads again yet! Regards Antony from Australia Young Jim ended up as the foundations of a jetty at the Kevincraft Boatyard in Lake Lothing, the superstructure was removed and the hull was positioned, filled with scrap metal, Sunk & then the Jetty built off the decks and Hull. Not much left now I'm afraid, this photo was taken about 2 years ago. Young Jims final resting place. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobster Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Tobster said: Young Jim ended up as the foundations of a jetty at the Kevincraft Boatyard in Lake Lothing, the superstructure was removed and the hull was positioned, filled with scrap metal, Sunk & then the Jetty built off the decks and Hull. Not much left now I'm afraid, this photo was taken about 2 years ago. Young Jims final resting place. A photo that surfaced recently of Young Jim, with the day boat “Mare” alongside. Also, just noticeable to the left the Houseboat Katrina or Miranda. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobster Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 01/01/2016 at 23:34, JanetAnne said: By the way, if anyone knows where any of the following are - or what happened to them, we would love to hear from you. Falling Leaves or Emerald (both Newson Boats) or Lady Miranda (Coral Craft). Willing to trade chocolate for any help..... Emerald was re named Troubadour according to boats of the Norfolk broads, if that jogs anyones memory’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davecc Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Gray Malkin 1964. It's the only picture of the boat I have. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMoon Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) Good evening, uncertain if Herbert Freeman is a famous yard but certainly responsible for many woodies. This one, originally Happy Time (believe 2) was sold along with the rest of the fleet to Herbert Woods sometime at the end of the 1960's and became Dazzling Light. The photograph on Boats of the Norfolk Broads was taken at Martham where she was moored and purchased by us in 2013. As with all woodies, much restoration has taken place. (At least I hope there is an attachment, a little tech uncertain). She was built earlier than 1968, thought to be early 1960. Edited July 11, 2022 by BlueMoon For clarity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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