C.Ricko Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 it is much easier to fit two people on a 6 berth than fit 6 people on a 2 berth. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 we have a choice, http://www.richardsonsmarinedevelopment.co.uk there is currently a ensign 21 in build, as well as commodores and commanders in build, there have been 3 phoenix in the last 3 years and have 3 Kris Craft (Landemore) sets of day boat mouldings to fit out for fineway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, C.Ricko said: it is much easier to fit two people on a 6 berth than fit 6 people on a 2 berth. You can guarrantee , four hirers have hired say a 4 berth and once motored round the corner, have loaded up another couple of people on board expecting some to sleep on the floor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 9 hours ago, C.Ricko said: it is much easier to fit two people on a 6 berth than fit 6 people on a 2 berth. This is true but if only two of us are aboard then we don't need extra cabins but appreciate extra living space. Fair Prince has a nice little dining area under the bow. Some boats have more space in the rear cabin. Some have better shower facilities. And I don't need to have to try to moor over 40 foot of boat length when 35 would do ... or pay for the privilege with the higher price of a six berth boat. Just my take on it as a frequent hirer of boats for only two. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 09:39, Jonzo said: Yes I noticed you'd been building additional Phoenix 21's. They look nice in plain white, too. Presumably the Ensign 21 is going into the Fineway fleet too? I've not seen the Kris Craft dayboats but they look good on the website. A few yards have tried to reinvent the dayboat but the Phoenix and those Loynes-type boats still look the best of the newer designs - I think mainly because they are a simple and clean design. The Kris craft is a newer version on the landemore with the screens moved forward 6 inches and an interior moulding if you want it.. The Loynes type is either the Landemore or what was originally the 'Rapier' which had a mould taken from one of the wooden fleet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 26/09/2017 at 06:19, Gracie said: I agree with Grendel, I think that older couples on a meagre pension and younger couples just starting out in life benefit from the older two berth boats, when we first got together they were a godsend in enabling us to afford two weeks on an old two berth, my fear is if the yards continue to sell off these older boats to make way for new, bigger builds a lot of families and couples will no longer be able to afford a Broads holiday, how sad that would be Grace I understand what you're saying Grace and agree with you, there should be a cheaper option for those not so well off, or even those not wanting to spend a lot, and to be honest I think there always will be. We were the same as you and originally hired the absolute dregs, we loved it, breakdowns and all. Having said that when you look at the bookings next year, Swan Roamer has a week available early March, one in early April then no weeks until late Oct. That says to me there is a market for high end 2 berth boats, plus they need to be built to be old one day, so we can afford them when we're pensioners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broads01 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, Wyndham said: I understand what you're saying Grace and agree with you, there should be a cheaper option for those not so well off, or even those not wanting to spend a lot, and to be honest I think there always will be. We were the same as you and originally hired the absolute dregs, we loved it, breakdowns and all. Having said that when you look at the bookings next year, Swan Roamer has a week available early March, one in early April then no weeks until late Oct. That says to me there is a market for high end 2 berth boats, plus they need to be built to be old one day, so we can afford them when we're pensioners. It's a good job I booked my short break on Swan Roamer last May, more than 12 months in advance of the trip. Yes it's high end, ish (makes a change for me) but it's not a new boat any more. I know there's a few new 2 berths about but they're outnumbered by the larger stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The ex-Swancraft boats certainly seem to be bringing in good business for Richardson's. First boat hubby and I hired together back in 2012 was Swan Reflection. We chanced upon something that has been hard for anything else to live up to. And given that we hadn't researched anything, read anything online, watched videos or anything like that, we weren't worried at all about the southern rivers and fell in love with that side of the Broads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yep, got to agree with Jean there. We hired several of the Swancraft fleet back in the day and they certainly set the standard, particularly in the smaller boat category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwellian Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 22:00, Wyndham said: there should be a cheaper option for those not so well off, or even those not wanting to spend a lot, and to be honest I think there always will be The boat supply will be mostly driven by market forces, especially in the larger more commercially driven boat yards. If the yard capacity can be filled with big expensive premium offerings that give the best return then they are likely to maximise it. They will provide cheaper options as long as they can get a comparable return. smaller yards may act differently as they cannot afford the capital outlay so the big expensive option is not available to them. as always other factors always influence. Like yard size and location as well as personal preference or interests, like Maffetts with Merlin and Swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesLV Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I noticed when I was up there last week Brinks are currently building at least two new boats, both look pretty similar to their latest addition ‘Serenade’ which is probably no bad thing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 He James, Here is a link to Barnes Brinkcraft Serenade http://www.barnesbrinkcraft.co.uk/our-boats/detail/47/ Regards Alan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 5 hours ago, ranworthbreeze said: Here is a kink to Barnes Brinkcraft Serenade Forgive my boggling mind. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 At Freedom, we are building a second Pod Flamping / Picnic boat for 2018 and have a completely refitted (from a bare shell) Siesta for 2018 also which will sleep 3 overnight for basic, low price boating. We have no further expectations of new builds for 2018. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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