Andrewcook Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Do Boaters know the Rules .One Observed Speeds Two if Boat have a collision they should Stop Inspect the Damage exchange notes inform the Boat yard Three there's a by law that any Boats must stop knowing they hit the Boat and do not carry on as I had One and reported it to the Broads authority . As some Boaters Don't read the Manual on the Rules from the Broads authority set's out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 38 minutes ago, Andrewcook said: Do Boaters know the Rules Some do, some don’t. Some couldn’t care less about rules. I think private boat owners and experienced hirers mostly know the rules and mostly obey them. Not all though by any means, particularly on your first point - speeding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Bit like drivers then - I wonder how most of us would fare in a current driving test!!!! I think we would mostly fail the theory, let alone the practical!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPunch Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 M 9 hours ago, marshman said: Bit like drivers then - I wonder how most of us would fare in a current driving test!!!! I think we would mostly fail the theory, let alone the practical!! My daughter's learing to drive at the moment and has a theory test app she downloaded. I got 3wrong out of 56, so a pass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I got 3 wrong out of 56, so a pass Nice one Show off! Dread to think how I would get on Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 The worst thing, I think, is the wash created by some boats. It’s clear some helms, both private and hire, have absolutely no idea what sort of wash their boat is making and have no conception of slowing down when passing moored boats. They’re within the speed limit (just) so that’s ok. Interestingly, we were at Reedham a couple of weeks ago when the ranger there shouted at a private helm to slow down. He got a mouthful back to the effect that the boat wasn’t speeding and suggested the helm looked at his wash. Seeing all the moored boats rocking around the helm looked sheepish and said ‘point taken mate’ and slowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, vanessan said: The worst thing, I think, is the wash created by some boats. It’s clear some helms, both private and hire, have absolutely no idea what sort of wash their boat is making and have no conception of slowing down when passing moored boats. They’re within the speed limit (just) so that’s ok. Interestingly, we were at Reedham a couple of weeks ago when the ranger there shouted at a private helm to slow down. He got a mouthful back to the effect that the boat wasn’t speeding and suggested the helm looked at his wash. Seeing all the moored boats rocking around the helm looked sheepish and said ‘point taken mate’ and slowed. We were chatting to the Ranger at Reedham a couple of weeks ago and he said the same thing. A boat going with the current can make little or no wash, but one punching the tide can make far more than you think even at a relatively low speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanka Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 A good point re the wash created, as anyone familiar will know we (Malanka) actually make less wash at 4/5 mph than the Rangers do. The boats of the 50's and earlier were designed to cruise with minimal wash created at 7 or 8 mph compared to more modern cruisers. Always makes me smile when I see the "low wash hulls" cranking out a terrible breaking two level wash struggling up against the outflow at Reedham. Go back 50 years they worked very well then.. Martin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It's the guillotined stern/ transoms of many boats that causes those large stern wave, a swept up aft, tuned in and rounded transom lets them slip through the water with less drag and less wash too I get amused at the Low Wash Hull statement - Re-inventing the wheel I call it and it often fails Herbert Woods knew a thing or two about low wash hull design before the term was ever muttered It's true about what Martin said about Malanka, I've seen it with my own Port and Stbd look-outs. 'B.A' is the same too (Unless we are towing a dinghy, then the wash is horrendous) Wanna know a secret? Before now I once carried out an experiment that I have NOT made a habit of. I allegedly transited through Horning at a full 5mph right under the nose of a ranger, not a word was said nor any raised eyebrows from the bank - That's because at 5mph and below 'B.A' hardly produces any wash Griff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 The older boat designers certainly knew what they were doing. Here is our boat which (according to Awiegh) was doing over 7MPH across Breydon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, socrates said: The older boat designers certainly knew what they were doing. Here is our boat which (according to Awiegh) was doing over 7MPH across Breydon. With or against the tide? Massive difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewcook Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 That's Point about the wash as I can remember years ago Herbert Woods Light Class Boats were all right on the wash and Speed because of the Front Now the Front Shape now coming back as Griff said B A does No Wash very true may I add except Towing Dinghy's not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Some of the worst boats for creating wash are the Broom Captains, Explorers etc. Plus NYA’s elite boats. (Maybe the elite boats are allowed to go faster as they cost more? ) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'm sure I've asked this before but I can't find it or remember the answer. The terms wake and wash sometimes seem to be used to mean the same thing.. what specifically is 'wash' and what is 'wake'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee1952 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray said: I'm sure I've asked this before but I can't find it or remember the answer. The terms wake and wash sometimes seem to be used to mean the same thing.. what specifically is 'wash' and what is 'wake'? Good old Google WAKE: is a wave caused by the boat moving through the water and displacing it. WASH: is the disrupted water at the stern of the boat, and is caused by the churning motion of the propeller. Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, vanessan said: Some of the worst boats for creating wash are the Broom Captains, Explorers etc. Plus NYA’s elite boats. (Maybe the elite boats are allowed to go faster as they cost more? ) Yep, those Brooms are bloody awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSurveyor Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Oddfellow said: Yep, those Brooms are bloody awful. Only when they go too fast, mostly when they pick up or are late back in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, psychicsurveyor said: Only when they go too fast, mostly when they pick up or are late back in the morning. I’ve found that even at a legal speed they throw moored boats around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 A low wash hull is useless when 5 large guys sit on the bow while going flat as I can testify to the tsunami that hit us sinking our canoe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 hours ago, psychicsurveyor said: Only when they go too fast, mostly when they pick up or are late back in the morning. Even at legal speeds they are bad. More complaints going past the yard about these than pretty-much anything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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