Tomfairweather Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Hello all and thank you for adding me. I have just bought an Ernest Collins Bourne 35 with my Dad and will be restoring it over the next period of time. I think it was built in 1968 and sold to a private buyer in 1985-1987. After that it was deregistered in 1991. The boats of the Norfolk Broads website sadly has no information about her or the White Emblem boats. Could anyone offer any suggestions as to how I could find out some information or photos? many thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spray Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 If you go into the database again and type Bourne in the bottom box , the various models come up and I can see the White Emblem boats on there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 There's one sat in Horning that seems to be gradually fading away, shame as I think they are fantastic boats. Hope you can post some photos and few updates as the restoration progresses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 This is from Blakes catalogue of 1968 and as there is a photo, the boat would have already been on hire before then. As there are 4 advertised in the class, they probably started building around 1966. I remember them as lovely boats, among the best built on the Broads, in those days. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Welcome to the forum please keep us updated on the restoration progress 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham47 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 We hired White Emblem 4. Registration No D137 from Ernest Collins Wroxham from 1970 to 1975 for 4 weeks per year. 2 weeks in April and 2 weeks in September.There were 4 White Emblems in the fleet. Beautiful boat in those days. Ernest Collins built their own boats and had their yard opposite to where Brinkcraft are now. They were eventually taken over by Jack Powels. The last boat they built was Astral Emblem 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 It was White Emblem 4 apparently. Now called Rafferty but had the registration D135….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham47 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Sorry, you are correct the registration number was D135 not D137. If you look at the picture Vaughan has posted above you will see the name is on the superstructure on the varnish to the left of the cockpit door. This was so for No’s 1,2 and 3 but on number 4 it was in the same place but but within a white panel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Graham47 said: Sorry, you are correct the registration number was D135 not D137. If you look at the picture Vaughan has posted above you will see the name is on the superstructure on the varnish to the left of the cockpit door. This was so for No’s 1,2 and 3 but on number 4 it was in the same place but but within a white panel. That’s great Graham. Thank you. Do you have any photos? I want to get it back as original as possible if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Vaughan said: This is from Blakes catalogue of 1968 and as there is a photo, the boat would have already been on hire before then. As there are 4 advertised in the class, they probably started building around 1966. I remember them as lovely boats, among the best built on the Broads, in those days. Thank you for this. The photo shows white emblem 3 so I guess it could be around that time 1968. The internal layout is the same so promising. I’m super pumped about getting it back up and running! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddleduck2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I sold mine last year after 22 years of ownership. It had been in private hands from new. I think I still have some old paperwork and photos. pm me if interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 She’s landed! 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broads01 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Landed where and where from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryn Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Broads01 said: Landed where and where from? That's looks like Eastwood Whelpton at Upton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 It’s come from Weston Super Mare to Upton. The intention is to bring it back to its former glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I see the most difficult part of the rubbing strake - around the stem - is missing, and will need a template made in order to laminate a new one. As it is a Bourne hull, it is worth asking around the boatyards to see if anyone still has one, that you can borrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 thats the part Robin made up for Broad Ambition recently, I wonder if the same former would work (if he still has it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Vaughan said: I see the most difficult part of the rubbing strake - around the stem - is missing, and will need a template made in order to laminate a new one. As it is a Bourne hull, it is worth asking around the boatyards to see if anyone still has one, that you can borrow. It’s all good. I’m a boatbuilder here at Upton. It won’t be too difficult to make one up. It all needs replacing anyway. The last owner used skirting board by the look of it! 😂 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTBoater Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, grendel said: thats the part Robin made up for Broad Ambition recently, I wonder if the same former would work (if he still has it.) He did one for mine as well. The former is probably still there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, AndyTBoater said: He did one for mine as well. The former is probably still there somewhere. That would be useful. Where is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Tomfairweather said: That would be useful. Where is he? 'he' is Robin, a forum member and almost daily visitor. I am sure he will see this and let you know if the former was kept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTBoater Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Tomfairweather said: That would be useful. Where is he? Based in Lowestoft/ oulton broad but as JA says. I am sure he will be along shortly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Hi Tom Unfortunately the former i made for Andy's Bourne 35 bow section has been binned, i have repaired many a Bourne bow section over the years and they all differ slightly, A heads up regarding the keel on a Bourne 35! The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length. Over the years i have had the pleasure of repairing at least six keels on Bourne's because of damage caused by uneven supporting blocks. I look forward to seeing pictures of your progress. Robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Robin said: The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length. Same goes for an Alphacraft, and more so! Spread the load on the keel as much as possible. It's got nothing inside it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomfairweather Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Robin said: Hi Tom Unfortunately the former i made for Andy's Bourne 35 bow section has been binned, i have repaired many a Bourne bow section over the years and they all differ slightly, A heads up regarding the keel on a Bourne 35! The keel its self is only constructed from the same thickness fiberglass as the hull, and is very prone to splitting on the bottom corners if not supported evenly along its length. Over the years i have had the pleasure of repairing at least six keels on Bourne's because of damage caused by uneven supporting blocks. I look forward to seeing pictures of your progress. Robin Thanks Robin for the heads up. I’ll make sure it’s supported properly in the morning. I must say it look pled in very good order once I pumped about a tonne of water out of the bilge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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