tragedy at OULTON BROAD

[donnygeoff]

Doesn't look good on the web cam.

Body possibly found....

[Matt]

Sad times

http://ow.ly/z2YIW

[Hylander]

Another family having to face a loss.    They are in our thoughts.      

[ranworthbreeze]

Further details on this tragic outcome.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/body_of_a_man_found_in_oulton_broad_1_3681071

Regards

Alan

[donnygeoff]

A very sad outcome, as looking on the web cam, the only boat that has been moored there all day is a hire craft. I would think that the yacht station would be nearly full by now for the overnighters.

[Jupes]

The yacht station has been closed until Monday. 

[SPEEDTRIPLE]

Further details on this tragic outcome.

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/body_of_a_man_found_in_oulton_broad_1_3681071

Regards

Alan

 

 

Thia is very sad news indeed,  but i have to say, i continue to fail to understand why so MANY other rescue services from many miles away should be involved?.   I also question why the yacht station should be closed for so long?.

 

Please don`t get me wrong anybody, i know this is very sad, but i can`t help thinking this is a glowing example of these services trying to be seen to be "doing the right thing", but could in fact have a more negative effect on the nessecary investigations or enquiry. It all seems to be more than just a bit overkill, and let`s not forget, all the time these outside services are many miles from their own home bases, there`s always the possibility that somebody somewhere could be in more urgent need of them locally.

 

As has been said above, someone somewhere has lost a family member and loved one, and my sympathies go out to them all.

[Matt]

Neil, just out of interest have you ever been involved in this type of incident? Because I have and until you have been involved you could never understand the complexities and difficulties faced.

These types of incidents are fortunately rare and the resources and skills are not readily available which is why the specialists are called.

Thoughts to all involved and please wear a lifejacket at appropriate times-give your rescuers a chance.

[Paladin]

Thia is very sad news indeed,  but i have to say, i continue to fail to understand why so MANY other rescue services from many miles away should be involved?.   I also question why the yacht station should be closed for so long?.

Yes, it is very sad.

 

I can't answer your questions, but the emergency services concerned undoubtably could.

 

The contact details are:

 

Suffolk Fire & Rescue:

Tele:01473 260588 Email: Fire.BusinessSupport@suffolk.gov.uk

 

Suffolk Police:

Tele: 01473 613500 Email: headquarters@suffolk.pnn.police.uk

 

When you get your answers, perhaps you'll update this thread.

[Gracie]

So very sad, my heart and prayers go out to the family involved

 

Grace

[10B]

SPEEDTRIPLE, it's very sad you feel that somebody's death has caused an inconvenience to others.

Thoughts are with the family.

[Boaters]

We were at. Beccles where over a hundred people had been relocated ,they were due to have a meet at Oulton Broad following a trip to sea .the trip had to be called off as the lock was closed to them to re enter .We talked to many of them including some of our members and did not hear one criticism of the actions taken

[MauriceMynah]

I didn't see Speedtriples question as 'cold hearted' as has been implied, and I too wonder why.

Once everything had been removed and the emergency services had left, why did the yacht station remain closed (if indeed it has).

 

It was also stated on Friday that the lock was also to be closed though this appears to have turned out to be wrong. Does anyone know where that information originally came from?

 

Whilst these facilities are used predominately for leisure, not solely so, especially the lock, so I think the questions are being properly raised.

[10B]

I would have thought that the Yacht Station was kept closed until cause of death was confirmed.

Pending further investigation.

You can see I watch TV crime.

[Paladin]

I didn't see Speedtriples question as 'cold hearted' as has been implied, and I too wonder why.

Once everything had been removed and the emergency services had left, why did the yacht station remain closed (if indeed it has).

 

It was also stated on Friday that the lock was also to be closed though this appears to have turned out to be wrong. Does anyone know where that information originally came from?

 

Whilst these facilities are used predominately for leisure, not solely so, especially the lock, so I think the questions are being properly raised.

Any answers given on here would probably be conjecture, or second, or even third hand information. I've given contact details for the emergency services involved and the lock is operated by the same company that runs the yacht station (Sentinel) - the Bridge and Lock Operative can be contacted on 01502 531778, and the Harbour Master's office on 01502 574946

 

If these are genuine, rather than rhetorical questions, perhaps those asking them would be better using those contact details. Without the actual reasons for the actions taken, from the horse's mouth, it does seem rather pointless to raise these 'issues' as a subject for discussion.

[loribear]

It does seem rather sad that someone should be found in oulton, especially if they were on holiday, my heart goes out to their family. Lori

[Guest]

......but i can`t help thinking this is a glowing example of these services trying to be seen to be "doing the right thing".......

 

Sorry Bill, I think that's the main part of your post that has disappointed people on here.

 

It implies a wide ranging lack of professionalism, without any evidence to back it up.

[BroadAmbition]

The lock was operating normally Saturday and the moorings back to normal Sunday

[BroadAmbition]

And for what it's worth I totally 'get' where speedtriple was coming from

[SPEEDTRIPLE]

Sorry Bill, I think that's the main part of your post that has disappointed people on here.

 

It implies a wide ranging lack of professionalism, without any evidence to back it up.

 

 

Hi Strow,

 

There`s been many many incidents and occurrancies in the past where the emergency services "proffessionalism" ha been called into question, and when you read the article where it states that emergency services of different kinds had come from the Suffolk coast, as far away as Essex, and with numerous fire appliances in attendance, it makes me (and some others) ask the question "what were all they doing there", when local services such as Police, along with thier marine rescue unit or the Broads based RNLI service, and the  Ambulance service should have been sufficient, and dare i say it, a more efficient use of the publics emergency services.

 

That in itself questions their proffesionalism.

 

 

Regards to all, and wearing my crash helmet ready for replies ................. Neil.

[Guest]

Hi Strow,

 

There`s been many many incidents and occurrancies in the past where the emergency services "proffessionalism" ha been called into question, and when you read the article where it states that emergency services of different kinds had come from the Suffolk coast, as far away as Essex, and with numerous fire appliances in attendance, it makes me (and some others) ask the question "what were all they doing there", when local services such as Police, along with thier marine rescue unit or the Broads based RNLI service, and the  Ambulance service should have been sufficient, and dare i say it, a more efficient use of the publics emergency services.

 

That in itself questions their proffesionalism.

 

 

Regards to all, and wearing my crash helmet ready for replies ................. Neil.

 

Life threatening emergency situations are easy to criticize with hindsight Neil.

[10B]

I was one who criticised SPEEDTRIPLES post, but I must support him on his statement, "a more efficient use of the publics emergency services."

When my Mother in law was found dead in bed the Ambulance Service was contacted, a Paramedic turned up first in a car and was followed up five minutes later by an emergency ambulance with two more Paramedics an excellent service.

They confirmed that my Mother in Law was dead and then sat outside the house for two hours until the Police arrived.

When the Police arrived the Paramedics had a discussion with them and then left.

The Police then informed us that we should contact an undertaker, they then sat outside for two hours until the undertaker arrived and took the body away.

This was late evening going into the early hours when resources would have been limited and needed elsewhere.

[Matt]

Hi Strow,

There`s been many many incidents and occurrancies in the past where the emergency services "proffessionalism" ha been called into question, and when you read the article where it states that emergency services of different kinds had come from the Suffolk coast, as far away as Essex, and with numerous fire appliances in attendance, it makes me (and some others) ask the question "what were all they doing there", when local services such as Police, along with thier marine rescue unit or the Broads based RNLI service, and the Ambulance service should have been sufficient, and dare i say it, a more efficient use of the publics emergency services.

That in itself questions their proffesionalism.

Regards to all, and wearing my crash helmet ready for replies ................. Neil.

If your house was on fire and you were trapped inside would you like the police to attend to deal with any possible offences, and control access to a potential crime scene? Would you like the ambulance personal there to treat you if you were recovered from the house? Would you want several fire engines there to try and put the fire out before it spreads? Would you like the fire brigades aerial platform to tackle the fire from above? Would you like the specialist fire brigades search and rescue to turn up and use their specialist equipment to search the house? When it comes to physically searching the house would you prefer one fireman to do it or several?

Because at the end of the day one fire engine would eventually put the fire and out one fireman would eventually search the house.

[Maxwellian]

Many years ago when you made acted with the best of intentions to do the correct thing the only people than knew about it were those around you. You probably knew those people quiet well. Some of them may have judged you, most would have probably been too busy trying to put a roof over their heads and food in their mouths.

Roll on the years, within seconds we see what is going on around the whole world, we get the opportunity to judge, to criticise, to mock and to ridicule all from the safety of our house. We don't often know the recipient of our comments nor do we care.

The trouble today is that we spend so much of our time criticising others instead of helping them.

Just a few musings...........have a lovely day everybody

[SPEEDTRIPLE]

If your house was on fire and you were trapped inside would you like the police to attend to deal with any possible offences, and control access to a potential crime scene? Would you like the ambulance personal there to treat you if you were recovered from the house? Would you want several fire engines there to try and put the fire out before it spreads? Would you like the fire brigades aerial platform to tackle the fire from above? Would you like the specialist fire brigades search and rescue to turn up and use their specialist equipment to search the house? When it comes to physically searching the house would you prefer one fireman to do it or several?

Because at the end of the day one fire engine would eventually put the fire and out one fireman would eventually search the house.

 

 

Whatever i`d expect Matt, it WOULD`NT be the RNLI, or any service from 3 counties away not related to fire fighting, just the local firebrigade, and police if nessecary.

 

With our emergency services being stretched to the limit already, where`s the justification in taking them from other counties where they may be needed at the same time, especially when there was no mention or threat whatsoever of any fire. And while we`re on the subject, why did there have to be not one, but 2 coastgard rescue teams, not to mention the Hazardous rescue team from Colchester. 

 

As for it being easy to critisize in hindsight, many people have been critical of the incorrect use of emergency services for many years, so why are they still not learning from years of mistakes?.

 

I`ve still got my crash helmet on.................