One Rule For Them?/

[rightsaidfred]

I  don't think anyone is condoning swearing or offensive behaviour  just the over reaction to everyday terms and expressions.

Fred

[Chelsea14Ian]

3 hours ago, Gracie said:

I personally think there's very rarely anything offensive posted on here in the way of swear words, we are all grown ups and know that there are words that can cause offence but written in the right context like trying to get a passionate opinion across can be quite powerful. I don't know if you may have noticed through some of my posts I have quite a flirtatious nature but it doesn't mean I'm going to bonk everything in sight unless of course they are in uniform  Seriously though, there are a lot worse things going on in the world to worry about that the odd swear word, if anyone feels a tad delicate about the odd profanity I suggest you never go to a football match or be present when our pesky Mod Charlie falls in the drink

Now if you'll excuse me I'm just about to take my effing meds lol

Grace

Grace mind your B&Qs

[Chelsea14Ian]

Off subject,but when the kids were little.One day Alan said F@@@ it I Said to Nicola his sister what did he say.He said F@@@ it.I could not really tell her off.Just said that's not a very nice word.Dont know where they learnt that.Must be there Mother.

[JawsOrca]

9 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:

Off subject,but when the kids were little.One day Alan said F@@@ it I Said to Nicola his sister what did he say.He said F@@@ it.I could not really tell her off.Just said that's not a very nice word.Dont know where they learnt that.Must be there Mother.

I was 32...

[Chelsea14Ian]

1 minute ago, JawsOrca said:

I was 32...

You was about four at the time

[JawsOrca]

1 minute ago, Chelsea14Ian said:

You was about four at the time

I swore at 4??? Cool!

[vanessan]

A friend’s toddler was sitting in her highchair eating a boiled egg and soldiers. She dropped one of the soldiers onto the floor, looked down at it and said ‘thit’ (she had a lovely lisp!). Neither of my friends use bad language so heaven knows where she picked it up, just shows how easy it is these days. 

[Chelsea14Ian]

Before we got married,I was living at home.We had a white budge.He could only speak one word.S@@@.A word he often used.Often taking to the mirror. He would get carried away,the mirror would swing around  hitting him on the head;causing him to swear for Britain.One night I was watching a horror film.Just when you knew something was going to happen,He fell off.I jumped he jumped and he said S@@@ S@@@ S@@@.I gave him another word that was not S@@@.Its funny how he always got it in the right context.

[Gracie]

On a very blustery and rainy day one of my little one's said "On Mummy look at all that F", only the 'F' of that word came out, the look of horror on my face deterred him from carrying on with the 'F' word, I asked him what on earth he was going to say, his answer was classic "Mummy I was going to say look at all that flipping rain"

We don't use bad language around the kids but they do pick it up from others and in the school playground. I think it's something you can't protect them from but teaching them it's not nice or polite is the only way forward. My Brother found to his cost to mind his language, at a family BBQ his little girl (4) came out with the 'F' word and when asked where she heard it from she announced that Daddy says it all the time when he's watching the football. He was in the dog house after that I can tell you lol

Grace

[JennyMorgan]

For many years I specialised in child portrait photography including working in holiday camps as part of the Ents (entertainment) team as 'Flash the Photographer', terrible, isn't it,  but it was great fun. Part of the act, if you could call it that, was to meet the kids on stage and they would have their photograph taken with Monty Mouse or whoever. To break the ice and win over the child I'd ask if they were being good & most would laugh and say 'no', bingo, I was in! 'Does mummy tell you off'? A gleeful 'YES' was what I was after and generally got. 'Does mummy use naughty words'? 'YES' again but even louder!! 'What does she say'? The trap was laid, child on stage, mum covering her eyes in the auditorium and expecting the worst, which generally came, yes, that awful word and the spotlight was ready to pounce!! On one occasion spot lit mum stands up and shouts 'No, I effing don't'!  The house came down, I was friends with the punters for another week! Innocent fun at a time when it was still a bit daring to swear, at least in public. Now it's every other word, effing sad really, and entirely pointless. 

[MauriceMynah]

Why assume that the word "Bogey" was removed because it was swearing? Could it not have been removed because it was revolting, conjuring up disghusting mental images that might  put the reader off his/her breakfast?

Some of the things I find offensive would be thought totally acceptable by many and vice verse. The mods do what they think right, and for the most part are correct. This is not censorship, this is trying to keep the forum acceptable for the vast majority of the members.

"One rule for them". I think not Kadensa.

[stumpy]

While we're off topic on auto-censors, some years ago when the government department that paid me staggered into the 20th century and gave us personal e-mail accounts poor old Mike Coone was totally incommunicado until a poor very high up manager persuaded IT that really was his name. Oh how we laughed. 

[Chelsea14Ian]

1 hour ago, JennyMorgan said:

For many years I specialised in child portrait photography including working in holiday camps as part of the Ents (entertainment) team as 'Flash the Photographer', terrible, isn't it,  but it was great fun. Part of the act, if you could call it that, was to meet the kids on stage and they would have their photograph taken with Monty Mouse or whoever. To break the ice and win over the child I'd ask if they were being good & most would laugh and say 'no', bingo, I was in! 'Does mummy tell you off'? A gleeful 'YES' was what I was after and generally got. 'Does mummy use naughty words'? 'YES' again but even louder!! 'What does she say'? The trap was laid, child on stage, mum covering her eyes in the auditorium and expecting the worst, which generally came, yes, that awful word and the spotlight was ready to pounce!! On one occasion spot lit mum stands up and shouts 'No, I effing don't'!  The house came down, I was friends with the punters for another week! Innocent fun at a time when it was still a bit daring to swear, at least in public. Now it's every other word, effing sad really, and entirely pointless. 

Peter was you a blue or red coat?

[Wonderwall]

Sitting at the tea table one day , good few years back , I asked my young lad who was about 6 at the time how he got on at school today?

" boys v girls at basketball " he said

"did you win"

"yeah, the girls were p@@h" he replied all innocent!!!

Tomato soup then burst out my mouth over the table!!!  We just informed him that's not a good word!!!  He obviously learnt a new word in the playground that day , and didn't realise it was on the "banned list"

I swear too much , truth be told ( not in front of kids etc of course), but it often seems the best way of expressing myself. Never heard a swear word in my house growing up, ever.

[JennyMorgan]

8 hours ago, Chelsea14Ian said:

Peter was you a blue or red coat?

I worked at Ladbrooks, Warners & Haven over the years so I was neither. Monty Mouse was from Pettits at Reedham and we took his roadshow around several independents as well.

[Wonderwall]

14 hours ago, Wonderwall said:

Sitting at the tea table one day , good few years back , I asked my young lad who was about 6 at the time how he got on at school today?

" boys v girls at basketball " he said

"did you win"

"yeah, the girls were p@@h" he replied all innocent!!!

Tomato soup then burst out my mouth over the table!!!  We just informed him that's not a good word!!!  He obviously learnt a new word in the playground that day , and didn't realise it was on the "banned list"

I swear too much , truth be told ( not in front of kids etc of course), but it often seems the best way of expressing myself. Never heard a swear word in my house growing up, ever.

I've just re-read  this and want to point out, my young lad didn't say pooh!!!

the missing letters are are I and S. 

A Scottish term for below standard 

[Snowy]

On 18/12/2017 at 21:11, grendel said:

I suppose we could say its something that is not talked about in polite company, and when you consider the original post that started this one - in that context could have been an embarrassment to the person whose video was being discussed.

Well yes I agree to a certain point, but the editing that goes into his or indeed anyone’s video blogs is a long winded process and how he could have missed what my original post pointed out is quite simply unbelievable 

now I appreciate that he could not have edited out the entire section as he was telling us about his ventures so far and what was coming up, maybe a voice over and picture scrolling would have been better

What was left hanging is not something I wish to see, even less so on a 65’ television where it looked big enough to engulf the world !

if anyone’s not seen it and wants to know exactly what I’m on about, episode 3, the first 10 minutes, but watch it on a smaller tv

now on to the use of certain words, I’m clearly amongst far better educated people than myself, you can tell that by the grammar and punctuation difference !

im from the East End of London, now while that’s not an excuse, I do tend to type how I speak obviously with out all the feffing and jeffing and it’s places like this that bring us together where in normal walks of life we probably wouldn’t 

I've only been a member since last May, I love the forum I thought I knew a lot about the Norfolk Broads, I clearly know bugger all ( I know I can use that word, seen it posted many times) as the font of knowledge here is unbelievable 

I like to contribute where I can, most of the time it’s just to crack a funny, I never intend to offend anyone, just sail very close to it ;)

Merry Christmas and best wishes for the New Year to one and all.

 

[grendel]

I think someone was saying that due to the length of the videos, what we get is pretty near straight off the camera without editing, if that is the case, much kudos to Russell for being able to produce quality video footage without the need to edit, so it may just be that he didnt watch the video before uploading (yes i know that is unlikely - but possible). i think a lot of us sail very close to offending others at times in the spirit of humour, the problem comes when someone actually feels offended enough to complain.

Its a bit of a juggling act for our poor hard worked moderators, trying to keep everyone happy and a friendly feel to the forum, so I would like to put a couple of my thoughts out there to all the forum users.

1. when you read a post and find it offensive - was offence meant or maybe just accidental, I think there are times when offence is meant, and those are the occasions to report the post for the moderators. Sometimes though the offense is entirely accidental and not meant, on those occasions - some may need the moderators to tidy up the wording / remove the offensive word, but others can be let to ride.

2. when you are posting, I wonder how many of us re-read our post before we hit the submit button, especially with a critical eye as to can my post be taken the wrong way - I know I certainly dont always do this.

and finally 

3. when we see a post has been moderated, does it not strike you that drawing attention to the fact and starting a thread all about the use of the moderated word / phrase - might just be undoing all of the hard work that our moderators have done by removing the word in the first place, lets us all try not to make their lives any harder than it already is folks.

(and yes I do know that makes me a hypocrite for posting in just such a thread).

Thanks everyone.

[Gracie]

I would just like to say the last two posts are absolutely superb, some of which I will take on board and very much think about. I think one of the many things that make this forum special is that we can discuss things in an adult and friendly way most of the time. Well done forum and well done the Pesky Mods

Grace

[rightsaidfred]

Snowy

I to come from the roughly the same area but it doesn't mean a great deal anymore where you come from, certainly in regard to London nowhere is the same as it was and has lost its identity.

Grendel

I largely agree with what you are saying and although I do read my posts through first it is more about correct content than the wording used, like Snowy and I expect many others I grew up in an area and an age where you spoke your mind and others replied in the same manner and I am afraid that while I never deliberately intend or set out to offend others I probably will purely by having a different opinion and expressing it in the only way I know how,  in todays society we have become so OTT in the so called protection of peoples rights and  protesting on everyone else`s behalf that even talking about the weather is going to offend someone somewhere, we have become so sanitised  as a society that breaking wind will become a criminal offense before long Mary Whitehouse has a lot to answer for.

Fred

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, Gracie said:

I will take on board and very much think about.

Grace

Not too much G you've already been in hospital once 

[ExSurveyor]

I think the odd bogey thrown in a conversation is acceptable.  The problem here was attaching it to the OP.

This personalized the comment and could have caused offence.

[MauriceMynah]

8 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said:

I am afraid that while I never deliberately intend or set out to offend others I probably will purely by having a different opinion and expressing it in the only way I know how,

Very very few "deliberately intend to offend" on this forum. Those who do tend not to last long.

Having different opinions is only to be encouraged, expressing those opinions however, does sometimes need care. This isn't "PC" this is making sure you get your true view across. 

[rightsaidfred]

MM

I fully agree unfortunately it is quite apparent these days and not just on here that as a society we have become so hypersensitive that however you express yourself and whatever terminology you use it is inevitable someone somewhere will be offended and trying to sanitise everything will only make the situation worse, I try to be careful how I phrase things to be accurate and concise that dosn`t  stop people taking offense because they interpret it in a manner not intended who is at fault.

Fred 

[JennyMorgan]

What I do find offensive, and entirely unnecessary, is the use of foul language by total strangers. I'll talk to anybody, I'm not choosy, but why does total stranger, after only a matter of minutes, feel it acceptable to introduce the dreaded 'f' word into the conversation? In some instances every other word! If we were discussing unelected,  unaccountable quangos then I might have some sympathy but we are generally talking boats, Broads or fishing, nothing that deserves being sworn about so why do people do it? Anyway, we are talking our forum, not an easy task, but restraint all round is no bad thing.