mbird Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 On Sunday, they tried again to tow the boat off with Titan. Several large seagoing craft passing were asked to pass at speed to create as much wash as possible to assist with the attempts to encourage her off which again failed. Here is a link to a video taken by one of the boats during the attempt (hope the link works!) "https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10206257805268263&set=vb.1359485995&type=1" From what I could see when passing, the stern is completely out of the water, meaning she is sitting firmly on her keel and skeg, making it very difficult to drag her sideways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggymale Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 It was mentioned elsewhere on the forum last week- it appeared that it was blown there in the wind. Having just passed it ourselves I guess we are following you! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggymale Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You must have passed us going the opposite direction. Did feel really sorry for the holidaymakers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawsOrca Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Any Joy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbird Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 It was still stuck fast on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broads01 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I took this photo yesterday, no change as far as I could see. How do you pull a boat off a beach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Looks like it will need a very high tide or lifting & pulling so that it twists on the mud in order to slip back in, transom first. But I guess as John Cressy is clearly part of this, there must be some reasons why this hasn't been tried. What is the ground like on the bank? Must be a very troubling time for Alphacraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Ricko Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 why not pull her towards the bridge? did they try with one boat along side and the other snatching off a long line round the transom? obviously much easier to do the job from my arm chair! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfurbank Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 She is only about a boat length from the bridge protection. Was at Somerleyton on Monday's high water and she still had a very noticeable lean so nowhere near fully afloat. The tide prediction was only 1cm higher than Sunday when they last tried to release her, with the aid of some fast boats trying to create wash to dislodge her. Not sure of the H+S implications of boats speeding through the bridge. Certainly looks like John had an interesting ride aboard Titan. Looks like Saturday the 18th onwards will be the best chance of her coming off. Monday's predicted high was 1.82m and that was far from enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 why not pull her towards the bridge? did they try with one boat along side and the other snatching off a long line round the transom? obviously much easier to do the job from my arm chair! From my arm chair, I have been wondering why a long rope and a winch on the bridge is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I might be talking out of my a**e here, but could not a teleporter forklift from nearby get near enough to give her stern a helping lift back into the water? Assuming she weighs around 8-10 tons, lifting the transom only would most likely only need about 2-3 tons force to do it, needing a lift of only maybe 2ft to clear the skeg and once the skeg and rudder are clear of the bank she could be lowered again and the slope of the bank would allow her slide back in if done at high tide. Again I might be wrong, but I believe that the bank there is quite sturdy and could support a farmers teleporter. I'm sure someone will be along to prove me wrong In answer to Jonathan, it might damage the skeg and rudder, perhaps even put a hole in her there if she catches anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking23 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I think with an 8 tonne boat, not afloat would require something capable of lifting close to 5 tonne, depending on the pivot point, just to raise the stern. It could be raised with jacks and long timbers slid under in several places, and then slide it sideways into the water. This will require access to the land, and maybe specialist equipment, well, my trolley jack can lift three tonne, a couple of them lol... A few wooden sleepers... A decent 4x4 with a winch and ground anchors might also be needed. Clearly waiting until an exceptionally high tide and waiting until it floats off is the cheapest option, if the boat is not on hire for a week or two, after all, it is not in danger of any further damage. I just hope the hull isn't holed, or cracked, when it gets back to the yard, it will have to be lifted, checked over and any repairs done before she is out on hire again. But this is what these hire companies have to budget for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Looking at the Hoseasons site Hurricane which goes under Alpha Spitfire Class the site shows bookings available from May 5th. That could of course be Spitfire and Mustang so three in that class. Lets hope the tides in a week or so get it moved off the bank safely. Iain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatmadmike Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 lol clive a 5year old could do better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 A crane on a train? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnks34 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I had thought about using the bridge foundations somehow to secure a winch but didnt have the guts to say it for fear of ridicule!! Thanks Jonathon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Oh Errrr! P.S. Dynamite would certainly do the trick...!! A bit severe don't you think? Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I am beginning to have a bit of sympathy for taller boats at Somerleyton Can you tell what it is yet? . No? What about the one on the bridge? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Tide was much lower this time which highlights the problem some what 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesprite Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I do wonder why they haven't got someone like Amanda Tapping involved, she could certainly float my boat. :naughty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadScot Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Ok, here is my daft idea to get Hurricane afloat again. If there is a fire tug handy and you skoosh the mud into oblivion with the power hose under her keel, would she not slip back into the river/ Aye ok i'll get my coat! Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonTecky Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Must have scared the **** out of the crew.... I know it made me gulp when the wind took us on the Thurne! From a nerdy point of view I hope when they do get it off there is some video footage of how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I am beginning to have a bit of sympathy for taller boats at Somerleyton Can you tell what it is yet? . No? What about the one on the bridge? See your point Matt. We passed under the bridge not long after the boat had gone aground and looking at the red flag the wind was blowing in the exact opposite direction that day so the reeds were not obstructing the height board. What I did notice at the time was that the upstream board was showing at least a couple of more inches clearance that the downstream board at the moorings. Roy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel falcon Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Lift bags, these lift in water or land and would raise the skeg out of the mire, if put them on the land side (portside) you may be able to tip here back in....job done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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