MauriceMynah Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Am I correct in believing that normal anchors, Bruces Danforths etc. should not be used on the broads ? and if so, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: should not be used on the broads ? and if so, why? Ships are held at anchor by the length of chain, not the anchor itself. Usually the chain is three times the depth of water. The anchor is designed to pull itself into the seabed when it is pulled by the chain, so it is anchoring the chain, not the ship. Most "grounds" for anchoring are sand or gravel bottoms, so the bottom of Barton Broad would not be appropriate! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I've used my anchor on the broads but if there's tree roots it's asking for problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Vaughan said: Ships are held at anchor by the length of chain, not the anchor itself. Usually the chain is three times the depth of water. The anchor is designed to pull itself into the seabed when it is pulled by the chain, so it is anchoring the chain, not the ship. Most "grounds" for anchoring are sand or gravel bottoms, so the bottom of Barton Broad would not be appropriate! when does a boat become a ship ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat nee blownup Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 You can put a boat in a ship but not a ship in a boat. Sent from my iPhone using Norfolk Broads Network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, thunder said: when does a boat become a ship ? When you're cleaning it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: When you're cleaning it. thats when my ship becomes the forth road bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, wombat nee blownup said: You can put a boat in a ship but not a ship in a boat. Sent from my iPhone using Norfolk Broads Network But you can put a ship in a bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 And I felt quite guilty contradicting Mr AB!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 12 hours ago, MauriceMynah said: Am I correct in believing that normal anchors, Bruces Danforths etc. should not be used on the broads ? In my experience a suitable sized Bruce is excellent for holding in mud. Indeed I also carry a 5kg one that I can lob a fair old distance in the event of my running aground & wishing to kedge my way back into deeper water. A 'fisherman' anchor is next to useless in Broads mud but by heck they hold well when lobbed into the reeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broads01 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I'm enjoying this thread and learned a lot. Another mudweight question - if I want to use a wild mooring where there's a tree for tying up the stern but no bank for a rhond anchor at the bows, am I safe to use the mudweight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 No reason why not. It would not be the first time that I have actually moored fore and aft in the rivers themselves, in out of the way places! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Broads01 said: I'm enjoying this thread and learned a lot. Another mudweight question - if I want to use a wild mooring where there's a tree for tying up the stern but no bank for a rhond anchor at the bows, am I safe to use the mudweight? This is a method often used and seen along the Ant , when using this method always approach the spot very slowly with your bow , checking carefully for any underwater obstructions . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wussername Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: . A 'fisherman' anchor is next to useless in Broads mud but by heck they hold well when lobbed into the reeds. Not too well I hope. How do you get the bu**er back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPunch Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Broads01 said: I'm enjoying this thread and learned a lot. Another mudweight question - if I want to use a wild mooring where there's a tree for tying up the stern but no bank for a rhond anchor at the bows, am I safe to use the mudweight? Exactly what I did when I broke down the other week whilst I fixed things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddfellow Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 16 hours ago, marshman said: And I felt quite guilty contradicting Mr AB!!!!!! Don't be. I get things wrong all the time, just most (some?) of the time I stop myself from vocalising or typing my mistakes. :-) There are many reasons you might want a second mudweight, but you need to be aware of the benefits and the detractions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 If I had an issue on breydon I would have a good bit of faith in my 10kg bruce holding me but absolutely sod all chance of a mudweight holding me in a running tide, but of course there's unlikey to be any roots to foul on with breydon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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