How Busy Can It Get?

[Ray]

On the whole though anyone with authority to question your mooring would almost certainly simply understand your reasonable explanation and move along.... wouldn't they?

[Meantime]

13 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said:

There is a number of examples where that bylaw would be deemed ridiculous.  If a boat from the moorings on Percy's Island moored at Horning staithe it would be in contravention of that rule to return to its home mooring. Any Richardson's hire craft could not spend its last night at Stalham staithe etc.etc.

This is why I asked one of the questions. 

I know this makes me sound like a nit-picker but if one is making a bylaw, surely such anomalies should be taken into account.

If "ignorance is no defence " is to be put forwards, surely "the bylaw is not workable" should equally hold water.

Percy's island is not a BA 24hr mooring. The last part of section 3 states:

any other place within 500 metres
(550 yards) thereof which is also subject to a notice displayed
under the Byelaw.

Since a notice is not displayed at Percy's island under the byelaw, it doesn't count.

It would count where there are BA notices displayed such as Sutton 1 and Sutton 2. The various stretches, I think there are now 3 at The Berney Arms, and possibly Hoveton Viaduct and Horseshoe, if that's the correct name for them. Oh and also maybe the BA moorings at Wroxham island that separates the broad from the main river.

[MauriceMynah]

12 minutes ago, Meantime said:

Percy's island is not a BA 24hr mooring. The last part of section 3 states:

any other place within 500 metres
(550 yards) thereof which is also subject to a notice displayed
under the Byelaw

Sorry MT, I should have read your post more carefully.

[grendel]

so hopping from deep go dyke, deep dyke and white slea would fall under that, though parts of deep dyke and deep go dyke might exceed that limit

[grendel]

actually just measured it, and the closest points are 425m from white slea to deep dyke, and with deep dyke 185m long theres plenty of available spots at the far end of deep dyke if you had been at white slea

[Meantime]

5 minutes ago, grendel said:

so hopping from deep go dyke, deep dyke and white slea would fall under that, though parts of deep dyke and deep go dyke might exceed that limit

I don't know for sure, but I would think the mooring is counted as a whole. So whilst the end of Sutton 1 closest to the road might be more than 500 metres away from the end of Sutton 2 furthest away from the road, I don't think that matters. The distance between the two closest parts of Sutton 1 and Sutton 2 is less than 500 metres meaning you can not hop from one to the other on a daily basis.

[YnysMon]

Is the miserable weather getting to us? I haven't come across such nit-picky posts for some while. 

Interesting though....

[MauriceMynah]

Yep, nit-picky it is, but if a bylaw is going to be enforced, it has to be ( well it damned well should be ) clear,  precise and unarguable. Sadly these days, laws are being introduced at such a rate that I believe rarely are they properly thought out, and can prove to be unworkable if a real "jobsworth" gets involved.

A genuine question. If I am moored alongside another boat at a 24hr mooring  am I in law, moored to the 24hr mooring or to the other boat? 

Then you have the issue of the definition of "craft". Does that include tenders? How often in a 24hr period can a boats tender, or one of the Percy Islands dinghies, visit the same 24hr mooring? Finally on this question, there is the definition of "mooring" in much the same way as on the roads you have "No parking" and "No waiting". If I tie up to take on water, then move my boat to allow others to do the same, I have just left the mooring so by the rules cannot moor up again at the same mooring.

Nit-picking,  yes but if someone wanted to get snotty about it, who would have right on their side?

 

[grendel]

technically, you dont park at a petrol station- you stop to fill up, so do you just stop to fill up with water? I would argue that you just stopped, you tied up temporarily (much as you would apply the hand brake at a petrol station), and then you went and moored up.

[Malanka]

OK folks enough with the Viktor Meldrew isms..…

All that stuff may be accurate and to the letter, the enforceable bit however requires. 
1. A shedload more rangers than exist

2. Some means of recording all legal like arrive a depart, ANPR for the broads anyone.

I really don’t think anyone wants to turn the Broads into the Frinton on sea of Norfolk and Suffolk.

IF we go that far I want to see reckless helming prosecuted, starting with the removal of the damage waiver system to be replaced with what worked for decades a meaningful refundable deposit held against damage and good behaviour. 
 

Just call me Viktor……lol 

[Troyboy]

I like the idea of a refundable deposit for hirers. It might make some be more thoughtful about their manoeuvres. 

[MauriceMynah]

Now, here's a thing.  I was sitting in the wheelhouse a few minutes ago, enjoying my morning coffee with it's modest addition of Lambs, when in flew a wasp. It started buzzing about causing me to reach for a folded Telegraph,  my weapon of choice on such occasions. 

I was yet to find the newspaper when in flew a butterfly,  little brown job  can't say more than that.

Well, I WAS planning to swat the wasp, but certainly NOT the butterfly. This got me thinking.

Notwithstanding the risk of being stung, the wasp was doing no harm, also the wasp grubs do no harm either.

Whilst the butterfly was also doing no harm, caterpillars do eat things that we want, so it made more sense to eliminate the butterfly than the wasp, yet I had no wish to do so.

By this time two things changed. Firstly I was holding my rolled up paper  and second, both insects flew out of the open cockpit window.

I had actually decided that neither beasty was going to receive the journal but leaving as they did, ensured their futures, well from me anyway.

Funny how these things pan out.

 

[Smoggy]

You made the right choice, wasps do lots of good in the number of small pests they prey on and when under attack can give off pheromones which tend to attract more wasps, angry wasps at that.

[ExSurveyor]

The pen is mightier than the sword, but news print is in a league of its own

[floydraser]

So drowning lambs in coffee is acceptable is it? 

[bucket]

2 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:

Now, here's a thing.  I was sitting in the wheelhouse a few minutes ago, enjoying my morning coffee with it's modest addition of Lambs, when in flew a wasp. It started buzzing about causing me to reach for a folded Telegraph,  my weapon of choice on such occasions. 

I was yet to find the newspaper when in flew a butterfly,  little brown job  can't say more than that.

Well, I WAS planning to swat the wasp, but certainly NOT the butterfly. This got me thinking.

Notwithstanding the risk of being stung, the wasp was doing no harm, also the wasp grubs do no harm either.

Whilst the butterfly was also doing no harm, caterpillars do eat things that we want, so it made more sense to eliminate the butterfly than the wasp, yet I had no wish to do so.

By this time two things changed. Firstly I was holding my rolled up paper  and second, both insects flew out of the open cockpit window.

I had actually decided that neither beasty was going to receive the journal but leaving as they did, ensured their futures, well from me anyway.

Funny how these things pan out.

 

I think that is how Attenborough started...........

[grendel]

I always ask wasps and bees nicely to leave, bees generally  do so quite quickly, wasps tend to hang around a lot longer. 

[Smoggy]

47 minutes ago, floydraser said:

So drowning lambs in coffee is acceptable is it? 

I thought he was having a kebab for brekkie.

[MargeandParge]

4 hours ago, Smoggy said:

I thought he was having a kebab for brekkie.

Rumour has it that lambs are less trouble as with Pussers you have to deal with the cats protection people 

Kindest Regards Marge and Parge 

[MauriceMynah]

Taking it up the Chet.

Tomorrow, if all goes to plan, both Nyx and Little Nyx will be heading to the southern waters, and probably heading up the Chet.

With the departing of Rosey Lees, I have to ask, where best for breakfast?

[Smoggy]

The angel does a breakfast and they only use locally sourced stuff (so you won't get beans), they also do albion stout. 

[MauriceMynah]

Well, here I am sitting in the commissioners cut. Little Nyx made it under the bridge and is moored opposite the Buck. I could have gone under the bridge but not necessarily back tomorrow.

Walked back from the river garden, that being just about my limit these days.

I seem to be suffering from a very worrying health issue of late. Real ale no longer sits happily with me, bringing on acid attacks. Luckily I can still drink Guinness in reasonable quantities so all is not lost, but at the moment, I don’t even fancy a G&T.

Not good.

[MauriceMynah]

Little Nyx has joined me at commissioners cut, so there's now a pair of Nyx loitering about, near the River Gardens. Just shows, don't it. Be careful what you wish for.

Just think... if I'd called my boat "Shoes" I'd have had Gracie for company by now. :-)

[Smoggy]

3 hours ago, MauriceMynah said:

 

Just think... if I'd called my boat "Shoes" I'd have had Gracie for company by now. :-)

If you'd called in "wine bar" you'd have her as a lodger.

[MauriceMynah]

Well, here I am again, quietly losing my temper with modern marketing.

I wish to buy a CD but all I can find is mp3 downloads. Not what I want.

There is a jazz pianist called Luca Sestak,  who released a CD a few years back called "New Way".

I want to buy it, but keep being directed to MP3 downloads. 

Before I fall into a pit of despair,  can someone direct me to a link to acquire said CD?