wooster Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Hi all I'm looking for a 4G router to use on my boat moored at Brundall Bay. Anyone any experience of Three/Smarty in this area? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I run a pair of huawei dongles, (one with antenna,) one is on o2 and the other on 3 with this combination I have pretty much full coverage, however I dont believe I have ever moored in the brundall bay area so cant guarantee coverage there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 We have used BT and Lebara in Brundall Bay both with poor results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 13 hours ago, wooster said: Hi all I'm looking for a 4G router to use on my boat moored at Brundall Bay. Anyone any experience of Three/Smarty in this area? Thanks I remember switching from Three to Vodafone and then my phone started to work when I was at Brooms... That's five years ago now, but I don't think it has changed much having looked at Three's own coverage map. Red is good, would you believe. The patches of 'normal map' are dead spots. I used the postcode for Broom but you can see Brundall Bay on there and it's a bit mixed. With a router and a good (external) aerial, you'll fare better. But it's the aerial that makes all the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikertov Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Ray said: We have used BT and Lebara in Brundall Bay both with poor results FYI - Lebara runs on the Vodafone network. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdobson45 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 We are berthed in Cove Marina. We have found that pretty much anywhere south of the railway station & The White Heron into the Riverside Estate appears to have pretty poor reception on both Vodafone & O2. There are a few small random windows of reception, including at the end of the old ferry jetty opposite Coldham Hall but even then its only good enough for making & receiving calls and texts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 We moored at brundall bay for 10 years we never had a mobile phone issue We have vodaphone. However we were moored at NBS last season literally a few hundred yards as the crow flies from our previous mooring and the signal was diabolical. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooster Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 Thank you all. It seems that it's all really variable. I guess I need to take a trial with Smarty and find out. I've been using EE and it's kind of all right so maybe that's as good as it gets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBerkshireBoy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I`d take a cheap monthly sim card from both Smarty and Lebara with you for around Brundall and compare the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Strange the Vodafone’s signal in Brundall is so patchy. I was told a few years ago that the mast opposite Brian Wards is for Vodafone. I wouldn’t like to guarantee that is fact, but the info was passed to me by someone who should know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Definitely. It's so variable all over the Broads that really you have to try it and see how you get on. A big (and good quality) aerial helps a lot, though, as does a half-decent router. The Huawei B535 seems popular with narrowboaters (where the whole boat is a signal blocker) and they'll often have an external aerial mounted on a small mast. You've also got ethernet ports so you can connect a TV or laptop etc to it without having the additional hassle of WiFi woes. The main issue with the Broads is that as it's a national park the mobile transmitters are only at the very edges and so sometimes you can be a really long way from one. Vodafone is generally what country-dwellers in Norfolk have but there are some dead spots (Neatishead in places there is nothing). Three has plenty of dead spots but where it works it works really well, and O2 is much the same. We had a router on Three and download speeds were excellent where there was signal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mouldy said: Strange the Vodafone’s signal in Brundall is so patchy. I was told a few years ago that the mast opposite Brian Wards is for Vodafone. I wouldn’t like to guarantee that is fact, but the info was passed to me by someone who should know. The geography is quite complex, that's the problem. Elevation is a factor, too. Transmitters are designed to 'chuck' the signal a decent distance so they aren't pointing the signal right underneath them, though you should have decent coverage if near one. Vodafone always used to work for me at Brooms. It was quite noticeable when I changed networks as my wife was able to send me to-do lists when I was at the boat.... When I was on three, I didn't get reception until I came back up into the village. I'm not sure which was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 With reference to the post by oldgregg 3 hours ago I do not understand the reference to the Broads being a National Park, as it is not a NP. The use of the term National Park is for marketing purposes only and this may be by the Broads Authority although others also seem to use it. Happy to be corrected if the legal position has been changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Let's not get sidetracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 The main issue with the Broads is that as it's a national park Let's not get sidetracked. Yes let's not Lets also not buy into the Blessed authorities lies either Griff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 My point was that the area is such that you can't (and shouldn't, either) get planning permission to stick a mobile mast right in the heart of the Broads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I think the perceived need for a complete network outweighs the location. Earlier in the year there was a temporary mast in the ullswater valley in the lakes, near Hartsop/ Kirkstone pass. Not sure if it’s been made permanent, or if it was to test the location. Powered by a very smokey diesel generator too. Dont think National Parks-real or pretend, are exempt from mobile masts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Ironically, Three and Vodafone have today announced plans to merge https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65842845 That'll be an interesting one as Vodafone and O2 have been sharing a lot of network infrastructure in the past few years in order to save costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 There are masts made to look like trees so the view shouldn't be an issue for mast planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 That's only part of the problem, though. You'd need to get power (and access) to them so there'd need to be a road and a substation nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, oldgregg said: Ironically, Three and Vodafone have today announced plans to merge https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65842845 That'll be an interesting one as Vodafone and O2 have been sharing a lot of network infrastructure in the past few years in order to save costs. Should be easy merging their customer services. Having dealt with both in the past, there was little to choose between them, they were both pretty dire. That was a few years ago, mind and they might have improved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgregg Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mouldy said: That was a few years ago, mind and they might have improved. I have a suspicion you know the answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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