Hylander Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 http://blog.greenflag.com/2017/speeding-drivers/?uid=2161662 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriously Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Makes me smile speeding offences up by 44% I'd like to know was the percentage increase is on . The police looking for speeding offences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Keep to the limit , it won't concern you. Simples. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I agree with Poppy. If you keep to the limits, which are there for a reason, then you shouldn't be worried about speed cameras of any sort. I do think that the average speed cameras are more effective in terms of road safety than the single ones that people slow down for and then speed up again. But I sometimes wonder how many people do get caught by them. A sweeping generalisation here, I realise, but commercial vehicles of all sorts often seem to speed by me in the outside lane as if the speed limits don't apply to them particularly in roadworks areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I have no objection to Safety cameras" when they are placed at hazards (outside schools for example), but I do feel that the speed limit should be very clearly marked where they are. Average speed cameras are even better for general road safety and are in my opinion a far better option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat nee blownup Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Could the flat cap wearing Skoda drivers with the tartan rugs on their laps please speed up. The soppy little dog that's running back and forth across the parcel shelf wouldn't come to any harm if you went more than 24 miles per hour on your way to the garden centre. Having socialised with certain boys in blue "back in the day" I was told that slow drivers cause more accidents. It is infuriating when you have to follow one all the way from Beccles to Yarmouth because you cant safely overtake. The speed limit on a lot of that road is 60 signed down to 50 at various point then 40 and 30 and so on but they insist on doing 29 ALL THE WAY Even the tractors and artic drivers try to get past. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound2Please Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Speed dosn't kill but ...................... BAD DRIVERS DO ! Charlie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I followed a 5mph below the limit driver this morning, past two schools , in a 20mph limit, he took forever to get past the cyclist, while he on the wrong side of the road... ( it was 06:15 this morning not many chlidren around then) The most annoying type of driver I often come across in Norfolk are those who drive at 40mph through the 30 limit villages, and then drive at 40mph on the clear roads with a 60 limit... Oh for added fun, there is a water main burst at the Coltishall Triangle at the junction of the Norwich road and the Hoveton road, just wait till they put the lights up and dig holes. That's going to cause chaos.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 minute ago, TheQ said: The most annoying type of driver I often come across in Norfolk are those who drive at 40mph through the 30 limit villages, and then drive at 40mph on the clear roads with a 60 limit... Not just Norfolk, they are everywhere!! The general standard of driving seems to be quite low along with the amount of cars on the road these days. But there are very few police available so the authorities focus on speed as this can be policed by cameras, great for speeding but useless for dangerous drivers who obey the limits. Sadly I cannot see this changing anytime soon. About the time we moved to Warwickshire the council decided changing all NSL single carriageways to 50mph would be a good idea, apparently the result of a Government initiative. The police objected them all on the grounds they could not enforce them - they were ignored. I wouldn't mind if there were valid reasons for a limit but his was virtually everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, Bound2Please said: Speed dosn't kill but ...................... BAD DRIVERS DO ! Charlie Yes Charlie, I agree but there are two different things ta take into account with this thread. If driving through an area I'm unfamiliar with, I am informed of the safe driving speed by "speed limits". Yes there are other signs too, but they can be missed by even the most attentive driver. Speed limits help. Speed limits work. HOWEVER, it is essential that the speed limits are set properly. A stretch of road near me where the national speed limit applied (single carriageway so 60 mph). there were some fatal accidents. The limit was reduced to 50. Still accidents occurred, some fatal. so the limit was further reduced to 40 and speed cameras were introduced. This was the wrong way round to do this. What should have happened was the cameras should have been introduced first, preferably "average speed cameras". It was patently obvious from the start that the accidents involved drivers doing well over 70 in the 60 limit, and overtaking on the gentle bend at that speed. It is my view (and therefore fact) that enforcing the original speed limits would have achieved the desired results. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, wombat nee blownup said: Could the flat cap wearing Skoda drivers with the tartan rugs on their laps please speed up. The soppy little dog that's running back and forth across the parcel shelf wouldn't come to any harm if you went more than 24 miles per hour on your way to the garden centre. Having socialised with certain boys in blue "back in the day" I was told that slow drivers cause more accidents. It is infuriating when you have to follow one all the way from Beccles to Yarmouth because you cant safely overtake. The speed limit on a lot of that road is 60 signed down to 50 at various point then 40 and 30 and so on but they insist on doing 29 ALL THE WAY Even the tractors and artic drivers try to get past. Wasn't this one, was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Poppy said: Wasn't this one, was it ? Serves the owners right for not considering their dog's needs before abandoning him/her to go shopping! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Heres a good one....what is the National Speed limit...... From the official government site it's 30mph unless otherwise signed!!!!! I don't know when they changed that one either!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfurbank Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, TheQ said: Heres a good one....what is the National Speed limit...... From the official government site it's 30mph unless otherwise signed!!!!! I don't know when they changed that one either!!! I don't think you'll find it has changed. The National speed limit has always changed depending upon the type of road and the type of vehicle. The National speed limit sign which is a white circle with black diagonal stripe means you can do the maximum speed for that type of road, depending upon the vehicle you are in. For cars 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways, 60mph for single carriageways. If it is felt a more appropriate lower speed is called for then it will be signed lower. In the absence of the white circle / black stripe, or a specific sign, then it is 30mph. I was taught 34 years ago to assume the speed limit was 30mph unless you see a sign telling you otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 deleted cos i got it wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 one point I like about French roads, is that the speed limit is lowered if it is wet or raining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfurbank Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, grendel said: one point I like about French roads, is that the speed limit is lowered if it is wet or raining. And during rush hour HGVs are banned from the overtaking lane. There is nothing worse than following two lorries up the M11 with one doing 1mph faster than the other until he hits a hill and slows down again. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, grendel said: one point I like about French roads, is that the speed limit is lowered if it is wet or raining. Only on motorways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 22 hours ago, Poppy said: Keep to the limit , it won't concern you. Simples. I entirely agree, Pops. I use my cruise control in ALL speed limited areas as my car will easily break any speed limits if I'm not looking at the speedo constantly. Rather than looking at what's going on around me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, Hockham Admiral said: I entirely agree, Pops. I use my cruise control in ALL speed limited areas as my car will easily break any speed limits if I'm not looking at the speedo constantly. Rather than looking at what's going on around me. Me too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemike Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 its the only way john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 We don't all have "cruise control" perhaps the law should only apply to those who have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfurbank Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, MauriceMynah said: We don't all have "cruise control" perhaps the law should only apply to those who have. On parts of the continent in certain areas you are not allowed to use cruise control as it can make some people's driving complacent. I believe in Belgium it is banned when congestion builds up in rush hour. The speed limits were around well before cruise control so no excuse MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Keith, My comment was aimed at the three preceding posts and was very much tongue in cheek 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Since taking delivery of my car with the full speed control package fitted I'm much more aware of my speed and that of other road users. The system on my car, like many these days, recognizes the speed limit of the road you are driving on from the mapping data, recognises any temporary or permanent road signs and then when the system is turned on automatically sets the speed you are travelling at. It also detects the location of vehicles around you and their speed. And yes it does park itself too. All well and good so far. There is one feature that I turn OFF though. Using the traffic flow data it sets a speed to take into account various road works, snarls, accidents etc. So the on-board telemetry will set a speed of say 40mph on a 60mph stretch of road to allow the 'blocked artery' time to clear. There is such a thing as too much technology so as I say with that gadget turned off the system allows you to stick one finger up to traffic cameras temporary or permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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