wombat nee blownup Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 According to the EDP the Berney Arms is to reopen selling food and alcohol. Mr Hollocks said a tenant has been found and will open as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I hope he has negotiated a first year rent free, not many weeks left to see you through the bleak winter on the marshes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 According to the EDP. Hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 He owns the place sadly. See other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, NorfolkNog said: He owns the place sadly. See other thread. Other pubs and a boatyard too. https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/berney-arms-pub-could-be-set-to-re-open-1-6705307 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetChugger Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 EDP says the application il from one William Hollocks? I thought it was a different name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, VetChugger said: EDP says the application il from one William Hollocks? I thought it was a different name? Son of Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetChugger Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Thanks Howard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Appears that Broadland Council will consider the licence application tomorrow (22nd) BA and RSPB objecting. They are referring to access for patrons across permissive rights of way although I suspect Mr Hollocks and Co are not expecting patrons to arrive that way. I've not done the trip personally but I gather it is lengthy, involves various gates and knowledge of the marsh tracks. it wouldn't be feasible. I guess they expect to accept patrons by river, foot possibly or of course on the train but these are infrequent and don't run after dark for obvious reasons. Interesting to see what happens although as others have mentioned one wonders about the motives. Wonder who Netty Southgate is? Name rings a vague bell. A cursory Google search does find a Norwich artist of that name although not the same necessarily. Watch this space https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/politics/owners-of-berney-arms-to-learn-fate-of-bistro-plan-1-6755611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylander Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Netty Southgate ,William Hollocks and his son Raymond. Are you sure we are referring to the cast of The Archers? Sounds like names from a good novel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, NorfolkNog said: A cursory Google search does find a Norwich artist of that name although not the same necessarily. There is a lady of that name on FaceBook, seemingly a dog rescuer and friend of the homeless, both meritorious traits in my books. Among her pictures is a rather fine snap of a Breydon sunset. As for permissive rights of access, something of which I have some experience. The original consent will probably have been granted by someone who is diseased, might even have no heirs thus there might not be a living owner of the land in question. That can cause problems but then there might also be a question of migrating boundaries, a very real problem in identifying relevant landowners. I don't doubt that a right of access from the public highway to the property in question exists but most likely that is only a pedestrian right. Mr Horrocks will probably need very deep pockets, especially where the RSPB is involved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Hylander said: Netty Southgate ,William Hollocks and his son Raymond. Are you sure we are referring to the cast of The Archers? Sounds like names from a good novel. Netty, if I have discovered the right one, could well be a decent human being therefore a suitable member of the Archers. Regretfully I have yet to meet a tenant who has a good word to say about the others, perhaps not obvious Archers characters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 https://www.becclesandbungayjournal.co.uk/news/owners-of-berney-arms-to-learn-fate-of-bistro-plan-1-6755611 The decision is being made today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broads01 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 This made me smile: "In a written objection, RSPB conservation officer Ian Robinson said: “The tenants do not have legal consent to access the property using the concrete road/graven track from the A47 via the Britannia Farm entrance and Breydon pump. As such we are unsure how they are expecting patrons to access the site, which is jointly-owned by the RSPB and two other landowners.” Well, there's these very clever devices known as boats.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: There is a lady of that name on FaceBook, seemingly a dog rescuer and friend of the homeless, both meritorious traits in my books. Among her pictures is a rather fine snap of a Breydon sunset. As for permissive rights of access, something of which I have some experience. The original consent will probably have been granted by someone who is diseased, might even have no heirs thus there might not be a living owner of the land in question. That can cause problems but then there might also be a question of migrating boundaries, a very real problem in identifying relevant landowners. I don't doubt that a right of access from the public highway to the property in question exists but most likely that is only a pedestrian right. Mr Horrocks will probably need very deep pockets, especially where the RSPB is involved. Corona Virus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Can't change it now. Just read it as 'someone who has snuffed it, fallen off their perch, gone 'rrrrrs uppards' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 The decision has been made. The Bereny Arms will remain closed because the application has been rejected. The moorings are going to be closed by the landowner because he can no longer afford to maintain them without income from a working pub. The BA are claiming that the moorings are unsafe. The license was also refused on the grounds that the noise would affect the local residents. A change of use has also been refused. Looks like it is back to square one, but with the prospect of no moorings. A sad day for those of us who wanted to see it re-opened. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: Mr Horrocks will probably need very deep pockets He has, but very short arms.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Dont understand about moorings being unsafe.We moored on the BA moorings there last week.In truth,pub and BA moorings look the same. All said and done its very sad that the pub is used as a football. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Smoggy said: He has, but very short arms.... He is a bit of a 'short arms'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, socrates said: affect the local residents Assume they mean the birds! Very sad. But it operated as a pub perfectly well for many years, why are the RSPB getting excited now? It can't be used as holiday accommodation, can't be used as a pub, what's next? I glorified bird hide? Unless there is more behind the scenes. We will never know. If he was trying to prove it's unviable then he's saved the bother of opening to find out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Why is he seeking a change of use on a tatty outhouse when the pub itself is a pub that could surely be reopened as such? Perhaps the next move would be to let the squatters in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I was thinking along similar lines JM but got modded a while ago for suggesting something similar! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Did anyone, including Mr Horrocks really expect a different outcome? Its all part of the longer term aim to get change of use i suspect!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNog Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, marshman said: Its all part of the longer term aim to get change of use i suspect!!! 8 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: very deep pockets, especially where the RSPB is involved Flog it to them for a huge fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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