wombat nee blownup Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Sent from my iPhone using Norfolk Broads Network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Maybe because of the height of the boat it will not go under the railway bridge to get into Mudford Lock, the Railway bridge has not been working for a few weeks now. Regards Alan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Why can they not just leave it at RNSYC and go home? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 And who cares very much anyway????? Yet another Archant non story!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 For Broads big boat users I suppose it is a story because they now have no access to the sea. Why have a brute of a motor cruiser and then never go to sea, like what it was actually built to do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Is this why there is a big lump moored side on to the Wherry Hotel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnoar Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Moor up in Yarmouth and wait for the bridge to open, plenty of room in the outer harbour. It’s the authority’s problem and they need to fix it! The least they can do is give them a berth foc until they do, slacking and not keeping their house in order is tantamount to denying the navigational right and if they get away with it for too long then there is a risk complacency might set in and one day the bridge is opened rarely or altogether shut permanently. I presume a third crossing is not too far off now, trust that will be reliable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Strange - and there was me thinking Haven Bridge came within the jurisdiction of Peel Ports! Seems to be some at cross purposes but I did not not think either Haven Bridge nor the Railway Bridge in Lake Lothing had much to do with the "authority" (which one?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 You would not want to be mooring a cruiser in the outer harbour, too much swell and big stuff, it's no place for leisure craft. Peel ports operate haven, nowt to do with ba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnoar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Haven Bridge is the responsibility of Norfolk County Council. Peel Ports operate and maintain it but can only be held to account under the terms of their agreement, looks as though NCC need to invest some cash by the latest article. I used the term authority in lower case as a general reference not specifically I.e. whichever authority is responsible needs to do what is necessary, even if the bill falls to the taxpayer which I expect it will largely. Agreed the small berth outside the Town Hall May be more appropriate Smoggy, refrence to the outer harbour was in jest, it may be fully utilised by shipping now, must be ten years since the cranes left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The BA very clearly does have a responsibility to its toll payers who, in some cases, wish to access the Broads or to exercise their right to access the open seas. The BA has the ability, if not the will, to jolly along its neighboring authorities who control the various access points. Granted the BA has no responsibility towards the physical work required but effectively it needs to ensure that its front and back doors are kept open and unrestricted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I seem to recall a lot of the electrical bits were replaced a couple of years ago, luckily for me I can drop my arch easily and go under anything below half tide with good clearance, there's a pretty big gap under there at LWS. As much as I'd quite like a flybridge I'm glad I didn't go that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPunch Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Lets be realistic about this. If, like me, you are on the Northern rivers, you expect to need to take the mast down due to fixed bridges, and fit an A frame or similar. If you live South, and intend mainly to sail on the sea, accessed by locks or moveable bridges, you probably won.t bother - why should you when there is a reasonable expectation of others keeping your right to navigation open 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Maybe not the future but....who are they upsetting by not fixing things and/or saving a bit more budget by not calling in emergency works? what pressure are the general public going to put on them in these times when only a few boaters going to suffer? 14 hours ago, Turnoar said: Moor up in Yarmouth and wait for the bridge to open, plenty of room in the outer harbour. It’s the authority’s problem and they need to fix it! The least they can do is give them a berth foc until they do, slacking and not keeping their house in order is tantamount to denying the navigational right and if they get away with it for too long then there is a risk complacency might set in and one day the bridge is opened rarely or altogether shut permanently. I presume a third crossing is not too far off now, trust that will be reliable! Surrey canal where I was born was filled and turned into roads much against local opposition and even one pub had converted itself for a canal side view. Experts even predicted the up turn in canal living. All ignored, The right of navigation rescinded. Canal filled. That bit of south london really would have benefited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 they must have some lump of a boat if it can't make it through lothing, 22 feet plus underneath it earlier today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Paul said: they must have some lump of a boat if it can't make it through lothing, 22 feet plus underneath it earlier today It's the often quite unnecessary, for the Broads, display of electronic wizardry above the fly-bridge that creates the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I think the radar arches that can't be lowered are no different than a large yacht that cannot demast without a crane. Let's not forget that access for boats to Goodchilds is necessary otherwise it would effect their income and jobs. If haven becomes unserviceable then Breydon bridge becomes redundant. No local/regional gov will have surplus monies to upgrade any of these bridges and need to be financed by central gov. Colin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Well they should never take on the commitment in the first place then! I still have little or no sympathy with the OP though!! My guess his mooring fees at Brundall are less than they might be in say, Lake Lothing - perhaps he has spotted why now!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 So are you saying he shouldn't have access to the broads just because he has a high airdraft whether it be radar arch, super structure or a mast or two. Colin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Saw this one today, 60 ft of the finest bling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, brundallNavy said: Saw this one today, 60 ft of the finest bling. I wonder how much they will spend while they are here. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrundallNavy Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Islander said: I wonder how much they will spend while they are here. Colin Believe it or not it’s got a broads toll number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Then he will have already spent a tidy sum in the area what with toll, mooring costs, diesel and servicing. Colin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobster Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I think one of the underlying issues is the restriction to navigation, seems to be the norm now.We all expect that maintenance needs to be done, but it seems to be all to regular that one or all of the bridges are out of action.Sent from the Norfolk Broads Network mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 19 hours ago, Islander said: So are you saying he shouldn't have access to the broads just because he has a high airdraft whether it be radar arch, super structure or a mast or two. Colin I don't think anyone is saying that, but if the owner has a permanent mooring on the Broads then he should be fully aware of the vagaries of the Navigation and the unreliability of it's bridges. Whether this should be allowed to happen is another argument, the fact is that it does, frequently. If effected by the "sea" bridges then he will also be trapped by Reedham when it is non operational. Sadly, the opinion often present on fora that we should all travel the broads in boats with a six foot airdraft is obviously becoming entrenched in the various authorities charged with maintaining the opening bridges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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