FlyingFortress Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, floydraser said: I respectfully disagree Vaughan. BRAG in whatever form is presently the best place to discuss tactics for the wanted reform. Discussion in other places just spreads out the information. This forum is perfect just as it is; well moderated and good content. Please let us not return to the old BA bashing days. Oh dear, I appear to have run out of ink.... From someone who has experience of trying this in the past I do understand the issues that BRAG is dealing with right now. I am not advocating that The NBN take over as THE medium for BRAG IMHO it would not work even if the software allowed it to which I don't believe it can. All I am asking for is a declaration of intent to support BRAG financially which once again IMHO they are going to need sooner rather than later. And then they can gauge the true measure of support from us " Little People" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSurveyor Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I believe I made my views on this matter clear in an earlier post. If your suggestion is that this forum offer financial support, that is a definite No, They have a platform, directly linked to their members, that is where any appeal for funds should be made, if that is their plan going forward, not here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, FlyingFortress said: All I am asking for is a declaration of intent to support BRAG financially which once again IMHO they are going to need sooner rather than later. And then they can gauge the true measure of support from us " Little People" You are correct I think, that they will soon be in need of financial support. I'm sure they would be pleased to hear from you and anyone else with cash to spare for the cause and by all means mention it here but please don't suggest anyone not prepared to chip in doesn't support the movement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Sadly, when something like BRAG is seen to be attracting suport against the official line, it attracts the attention of individuals who are actually 'the enemy within'. I have experienced this myself in an earlier life and it is interesting when one starts digging what you can expose. All I will say is, take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, ExSurveyor said: I believe I made my views on this matter clear in an earlier post. If your suggestion is that this forum offer financial support, that is a definite No, They have a platform, directly linked to their members, that is where any appeal for funds should be made, if that is their plan going forward, not here. Not my intention at all. I was only asking individual members to declare if they were prepared to financially support BRAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSurveyor Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, FlyingFortress said: Not my intention at all. I was only asking individual members to declare if they were prepared to financially support BRAG And I would ask you again not to. It is for the committee of the group to canvass support on their own platform, if that is the route they decide to take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, floydraser said: You are correct I think, that they will soon be in need of financial support. I'm sure they would be pleased to hear from you and anyone else with cash to spare for the cause and by all means mention it here but please don't suggest anyone not prepared to chip in doesn't support the movement. I suppose it could be viewed that way but once again that was not my intention. This is why you,and by that I mean me, needed to run my opinions before a committee before I embarked on a policy when I ran a successful campaign against a County Council. My committee pulled me up on a few things during this period and I am very thankful that they did 😥 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 25/04/2023 at 22:04, ExSurveyor said: And I would ask you again not to. It is for the committe of the group to canvass support on their own platform, if that is the route they decide to take Ok Noted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just a personal opinion but I don't believe that BRAG is intended as a discussion or debating group in the accepted sense, it is a single purpose group open to suggestions, proposals and factual information to achieve its goals and as such far more suited than this or any other forum. To attract as much input as possible it has started out as an open group, sadly as we all know only to well this leaves you vulnerable to anyone with the will and ulteria motives to disrupt, mislead or divert, I am sure given the support they have a way will be found. Fred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Any open group on faceache will always find members that are only there to stir their own needs, the one that just want to disrupt anything and everything, the same as so many protests end up in a riot by people that never had any interest in protesting just wanted a riot. That's not to say the majority are like that in any way, just that the problem people will always be the loudest and over-run the majority. And one of the many reasons why I don't do faceache. I would join in with donations if they get it into a proper format but some of the posts I saw last time I nosed in there just turned me away. I agree that this forum is not and never was a campaigning group and should stay that way, I do however feel members should be free to voice their support of BRAG and pass on information regarding the the work and aims of BRAG, it's in every broads users interest as long as it stays on course, but of course if it just becomes another place for idiots to hurl abuse around I'll steer well clear. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Meantime said: In the meantime though this forum is still open for posting because it's not embroiled in politics. Continues to be the light relief that most want. I don't get involved in threads like this normally but I have to agree with MT on this statement This forum is excellent for that light relief and friendliness we have become so good at and famous for, if we became political all that would be lost as well as many lovely members. We can still give our support to the Broads through this forum without getting too political and the nastiness that comes with it The pesky Mods do an excellent job too, well done to the team and thank you x 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylander Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gracie said: I don't get involved in threads like this normally but I have to agree with MT on this statement This forum is excellent for that light relief and friendliness we have become so good at and famous for, if we became political all that would be lost as well as many lovely members. We can still give our support to the Broads through this forum without getting too political and the nastiness that comes with it The pesky Mods do an excellent job too, well done to the team and thank you x You are not after a pay rise are you Gracie - praising up the Mods!! Only joking... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, Hylander said: You are not after a pay rise are you Gracie - praising up the Mods!! Only joking... You gotta keep in their good books you know x 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikertov Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Hylander said: You are not after a pay rise are you Gracie - praising up the Mods!! Only joking... Heavens forbid that Gracie would attempt to solicit any form of financial payment, in return for her unwavering support of the forum management and moderating team. ... a bottle or three of Rosé - now that is a different proposition altogether 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizG Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 The Facebook group is active again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 ITV Anglia tonight 6pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, ExSurveyor said: If it is the local news it will be 6.30. Don't worry if you are running out, most members post much more interesting ones. If you wait until 6:30 you have missed it. It was the lead story. Posted at 6:30 I don't take pretty pictures I like to enjoy the moment 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, FlyingFortress said: If you wait until 6:30 you have missed it. It was the lead story. Posted at 6:30 I don't take pretty pictures I like to enjoy the moment 😜 Picture of my last dog . Very pretty girl. And on The Broads 😜 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSurveyor Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, FlyingFortress said: If you wait until 6:30 you have missed it. It was the lead story. ITV then. I can't get Anglia at home so I will watch it online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucket Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 I can get BBC Look East on sky up in Yorkshire but not ITV Anglia.......was it worth watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFortress Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, bucket said: I can get BBC Look East on sky up in Yorkshire but not ITV Anglia.......was it worth watching? Think it was good publicity for the issue. Poor image of dog before last. Not pretty but very handsome 😁 On my boat before last. On The Broads 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Here we have two separate entities. The NBN and BRAG. For the NBN to show itself to be supporting BRAG would be contrary to its own TOS. To condone others posting in favour of BRAG, equally so. It is imperative that this forum remains unbiased in such matters. However, it is equally important that things like this can be, and are, discussed openly and only moderated if lines are crossed. If BRAG calls for funding, there should be no bar for members to discuss that call, and possibly even suggesting others to answer it, but the forum itself has to remain above it and it has to ensure that anybody who disagrees, still has a voice to say so. Thus far, I think this tricky tightrope is being handled well, and long may that remain so. For my part, yes I support the current aims of BRAG, but until I know how any money collected will be used and controlled, I shall be keeping my short arms outside my long pockets. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 I’m not sure what’s going on here, but the posting of random pictures on this thread has got a bit weird. Yes, I’ve posted so many pics of my own dogs on NBN, but I thought this thread was supposed to be about the current concerns about the BA? Have I missed something? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 hours ago, YnysMon said: but I thought this thread was supposed to be about the current concerns about the BA? Have I missed something? I have also missed what on Earth this TV programme was supposed to be about? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meantime Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 You two are not the only ones confused by it. Was the thread heavily modded yesterday? Did the Etherweb remove a whole chunk of thread for no reason? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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