ranworthbreeze Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Just now, Matt said: Well the electteic posts at Brammerton are indeed new but still wrapped in a bin bag! Thank you Matt for the update, can all forum members please let us know any state of play regarding the electric posts. Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonTecky Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Electricity posts working at Ranworth! Miserable git in the shop still giving duff information about how they work and will not swap old cards. Oh he also says the new cards should be recycled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnks34 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 If you want to swap unused old cards you need to send them in to the BA and ask for them to be exchanged as far as i was aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranworthbreeze Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 By all accounts the Broads Authority have advised the tourist centers to swap the old cards, how this will work in practice is anyone's guess. Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It might be a good idea to list where you can get these cards from. It`s also worth remembering that WRC have their own system, and the BA cards won`t work in them. We bought a bunch 3 years back from the shop in Loddon, and also a few from the quay ranger at Reedham. However, it would be great to know, possibly on a locked thread, of ALL outlets around the broads that sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 21 hours ago, ranworthbreeze said: By all accounts the Broads Authority have advised the tourist centers to swap the old cards, how this will work in practice is anyone's guess. Regards Alan I walked in and said "can I exchange my old cards for the new cards?". She said "yes" and we exchanged. Simples!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueH Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: I walked in and said "can I exchange my old cards for the new cards?". She said "yes" and we exchanged. Simples!! I posted mine to the BA on Monday. It will be interesting to see if they come back before our next trip up there on 22nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I can honestly say it felt like the £1 was used up far quicker than last year........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: I can honestly say it felt like the £1 was used up far quicker than last year........ That's because the price per unit has risen from 15p on the old posts to 21p on the new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandenjg Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 07/04/2017 at 7:57 PM, SPEEDTRIPLE said: It`s also worth remembering that WRC have their own system, and the BA cards won`t work in them. I went to WRC Tuesday tried all my old cards then my new contactless cards then realised they have they're own cards. I'm getting quite a collection of cards onboard. The boat next to me loaded up £4 electric and used 38p overnight then left at first light. Branden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandenjg Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 P.s I charged my phone and camera at Reedham using someone's left over electric 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 13 hours ago, Paladin said: That's because the price per unit has risen from 15p on the old posts to 21p on the new ones. Ah the good old BA standard rate of inflation of 40% has been applied...... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Matt said: Ah the good old BA standard rate of inflation of 40% has been applied...... Perhaps all should attempt to use 40% less......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDTRIPLE Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Poppy said: Perhaps all should attempt to use 40% less......... Why?. Why do people bang on about using less of something when it`s there to be used?. I think it`s a disgraceful con to quietly up the charges of something by 40%, and then say use less. No, if you want to increase prices, increase it by an index liked rate, which is still more than a lot of peoples wages. Greedy B.....ds, that`s all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/ofgem-publications/74486/11782-resaleupdateoct05.pdf Does the BA abide by the rules? I think not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 08/04/2017 at 7:37 PM, Paladin said: That's because the price per unit has risen from 15p on the old posts to 21p on the new ones. But surely that's illegal? Ofgem specifically states (in para 1) that . https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/ofgem-publications/74486/11782-resaleupdateoct05.pdf Can someone more worldly than me please advise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Re Ofgem's dictate very clearly we need to know the unit cost for the BA and the unit cost for the boater. If the difference is greater than Ofgem allow then clearly it is a matter that needs looking into. However I fear that the BA will insist that the high cost of providing the service has impacted on the subsequent charge. I would imagine that the cost of provision is enormous. On the other hand as it's an income stream for the BA and if an excessive 'profit' is being made then it's a matter that could benefit from comment and possible intervention by Ofgem. Back to question one, perhaps one of us could ask the BA to comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I suspect they'll get away with it by including the costs of post replacement as part of "standing charges" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 The rules surely allow for a charge including installation and maintenance of the 'hardware'? These posts ( and their updates) don't come out of thin air you know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceMynah Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I cannot feel but think it likely that the profits made by BA on leccy charges will never cover the costs of providing and maintaining the posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockham Admiral Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, Poppy said: The rules surely allow for a charge including installation and maintenance of the 'hardware'? These posts ( and their updates) don't come out of thin air you know.... But they chose to update the b****y posts, Pops..... I certainly didn't ask them to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I have just sent this off to the BA: Dear Sir/Madam. Would you please inform me of the unit cost of electricity supplied to the Broads Authority for bankside supply to boats and also the subsequent unit cost of that electricity to boat users? Regards, Peter Waller. On a personal perspective I do feel that the user rather than the general toll payer should pay for this service but then I am also acutely aware that the BA has been seeking out further means of boosting their income stream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Reading further into that Ofgem document, it seems that Ofgem state that any costs incurred due to the supply infrastructure, e.g the posts themselves, cabling, maintenance and supply must be met by an alternative funding stream and not from an increase in the unit price to the end user? I stand to be corrected if this is not the case 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 A question or more , Have BA increased the rates for payment before? Could the old posts be updated in such a way? What was the cost per unit to BA when the last sale price was set and what is it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRascal Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 21p a unit - and what is a 'unit' is this 1Kwh or electricity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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